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re: Anybody still think Finley is a better QB than Brennan?
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:16 am to crawdaddy717
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:16 am to crawdaddy717
The QB that poses the greatest threat with his feet combined with the most accuracy on routes that are covered by personnel responsible for covering receivers and run support will be the best option for LSU’s offensive success.
Bo Nix did a great job of showing LSU fans the kind of play we need to be successful. He left Ali Gaye’s jock strap on the ground, and showed Jacoby Stevens why he won’t get drafted at the goal line yesterday.
If Brennan can survive the hits necessary to keep defenses honest, he might be our best option, but I don’t see it. And that’s with the OL doing their job, which doesn’t look promising.
You guys couldn’t wait to see Finley fail, as he undoubtedly would. I don’t want to see the same with Brennan in a couple weeks, but it is inevitable.
It will be the Danny Etling show, except worse than 29-0. The only way we keep the margin that close will be with one of the FR QBs and a very creative gameplan. Somehow need to find a versatile back like CEH to combine w a running QB to exploit their weakness, like OM did.
I have no illusions about our present staff, unfortunately. LOL. We have yet to even establish a RB as a threat to receive the ball.
Imagine last year w/o Burrow’s rushing yards or CEH’s receiving yards. Yikes
Bo Nix did a great job of showing LSU fans the kind of play we need to be successful. He left Ali Gaye’s jock strap on the ground, and showed Jacoby Stevens why he won’t get drafted at the goal line yesterday.
If Brennan can survive the hits necessary to keep defenses honest, he might be our best option, but I don’t see it. And that’s with the OL doing their job, which doesn’t look promising.
You guys couldn’t wait to see Finley fail, as he undoubtedly would. I don’t want to see the same with Brennan in a couple weeks, but it is inevitable.
It will be the Danny Etling show, except worse than 29-0. The only way we keep the margin that close will be with one of the FR QBs and a very creative gameplan. Somehow need to find a versatile back like CEH to combine w a running QB to exploit their weakness, like OM did.
I have no illusions about our present staff, unfortunately. LOL. We have yet to even establish a RB as a threat to receive the ball.
Imagine last year w/o Burrow’s rushing yards or CEH’s receiving yards. Yikes
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:20 am to crawdaddy717
No, but he does look better than Max right now
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:23 am to p&g
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We have some really stupid posters
and ESPN analysis
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:27 am to crawdaddy717
As I've said before Finley is a really talented kid with a big upside, but he is a true freshman, so is Max Johnson and I think he will be a really good QB too. LSU's future at QB is bright, but I don't think Myles Brennan would have fared much better against Auburn Saturday. Myles Brennan has no mobility and he just would have been a statue in the pocket against Auburn's pass rush.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 10:34 am
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:27 am to Metaloctopus
Don’t even mention Burrow and TJ in the same sentence. There are no comparisons, TJ will never have Joes mental aspects of the game, never. Brennan’s either for that matter. Next up?
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:36 am to nerd guy
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Only those that actually thought scar was a half decent football team.
You mean the same team that beat Auburn who just fricking took us behind the woodshed.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:38 am to crawdaddy717
quote:His dumbass turnover was the straw that broke the camels back as they say. Before that the defense was playing inspired football. Kinda shitty feeling I would guess for the defense when their QB hands the opposing team 14 points.
I don't blame him for this loss. The loss was truly a team effort, or lack there of. But the debate is over as to who should be the starter. It's Brennan by a mile. Finley will be ready one day. But not now
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:40 am to TrouserTrout
So it’s TJ’S fault we lost??????
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:42 am to slackster
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Congratulations. It’s not the least bit surprising that so many of you are giddy he struggled.
Nobody is happy that he struggled. But the people who wanted to crown him as the GOAT because of 1 game against S.C. sounded ridiculous.
He ran a limited part of the offense last week. Auburn saw the film and took away what Finely was successful with in that game, and you saw the result.
He will be good amd probably great. Just not yet.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:44 am to MMauler
The shot is being fired at idiots on this board who were touting the kid as God’s gift to LSU football. I don’t think anyone is knocking TJ. We’re all aware he’s a true freshman and has some growing to do. He’s just not better than Brennan, RIGHT NOW. Will he be one day? I guess we’ll see has he grows.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:54 am to MMauler
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The kid is a true freshman playing on the road. Give him a f-*cking break.
That performance had me thinking that I was watching "The film" of Brandon Harris vs. Auburn in his freshman season when everyone thought he was our savior.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:57 am to tjohn deaux
Brennan wasn’t winning last night’s game. Burrow could’ve been in there and if we played like that, still would’ve lost.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:03 am to crawdaddy717
Amazing once a team has a week of film how their coordinators can humiliate them
Brennan is light years ahead of TJ
Brennan is light years ahead of TJ
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:14 am to slackster
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Congratulations. It’s not the least bit surprising that so many of you are giddy he struggled.
How’s the view from that high horse? I’m sure you’ll be riding it into the Orgeron threads to chastise those posters as well. Unless it’s only bad to gloat about being right when you disagree. People were saying Myles Brennan should transfer. I wanted TJ to be successful and I still think he has a bright future at LSU. But that doesn’t change the fact that many folks were insufferable after the USCe game.
Brennan didn’t have a run game because “he isn’t a threat to run like TJ.” Brennan’s dealt with drops because he “wasn’t as accurate as TJ” or because “the team plays harder for TJ.” Oh, and unlike Myles, TJ knows how to convert third downs. I mean, hell, if Myles was good we would have beaten MSU and Mizzou.
Did you go out of your way to criticize those posts as well?
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:29 am to Dude what
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OHHHHHH ok. So when Brennan faces the same problems it doesn’t matter, because all I heard was how a QB “makes the oline better”, “he throws a more catchable ball”. Apparently when Myles faces the same thing and puts up huge numbers it’s irrelevant.
At what point has Brennan faced "the same problems"? Receivers have been running open all season until yesterday. In the first game against MSU, when there was pressure, Brennan didn't handle it well at all. After that game, he improved. Finley faced FAR more pressure than Brennan has in any of his three starts, and obviously it didn't go well. When there were open receivers early in the game, he was hitting them. But after he made his couple of mistakes that put the team in a hole, everyone appeared to just quit around him. I never saw this team quit in any of Brennan's games.
And here's what you're missing while you're busy ranting about an imaginary group of people who supposedly wanted Brennan benched (which is not what the majority of people were saying): It's not about trying to prove that Brennan wasn't good. After the first game, he was outstanding. And I never said Finley's ability to run changed anything. I don't think he's that good of a runner, and I hated the draw plays. It was that Finley showed an incredible ability to read the defense quickly and get the ball out immediately against USC. It was incredible because the guy was literally stepping into a college game for the first time. That told me and a lot of others that he's got a great natural ability. It's taken Brennan a long time to develop. But he has, and that's great. I simply think Finley has a higher upside.
I never called for Brennan to be benched. He didn't do anything to lose his job. And based on having paid his dues, I fully expected and supported that he would likely regain his starting job, when healthy, no matter what Finley did. Meat heads took that and ran with this narrative: "You guys think he's the messiah after one game. You turned on Brennan as soon as he got hurt. Wah, wah, wah"... It was typical tigerdroppings strawman, mischaracterization tactics to try to win a point.
If Brennan could improve from his first taste of adversity, why can't Finley? Why do we have to bury Finley? Myles has played well, but hasn't faced anything like yesterday. It's incredibly ignorant to try to compare the two QB's based on that. I'm good with either guy. I said that all week. My only issue was with those who just poo-pooed Finley all week because "it's just one game", and now after ONE off game, you hypocrites turn right back around and make your own sweeping judgments.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 11:40 am
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:07 pm to Metaloctopus
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Finley faced FAR more pressure than Brennan has in any of his three starts
We gave up 7 sacks against Mississippi State. We had unblocked guys coming through the A-gap on more than one occasion in that game.
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Receivers have been running open all season until yesterday.
There were open receivers yesterday.
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When there were open receivers early in the game, he was hitting them.
Two of the first three attempts were thrown behind an open Terrace Marshall.
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And here's what you're missing while you're busy ranting about an imaginary group of people who supposedly wanted Brennan benched
They weren’t imaginary, and I think you know that based on your next comment:
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(which is not what the majority of people were saying)
You’re right. The majority were pushing back against the vocal minority who thought Brennan should be benched.
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I never called for Brennan to be benched. He didn't do anything to lose his job. And based on having paid his dues, I fully expected and supported that he would likely regain his starting job, when healthy, no matter what Finley did. Meat heads took that and ran with this narrative: "You guys think he's the messiah after one game. You turned on Brennan as soon as he got hurt. Wah, wah, wah"... It was typical tigerdroppings strawman, mischaracterization tactics to try to win a point.
This is bullshite. Those arguments didn’t stem from the type of reasonable arguments you’re suggesting. The fact that you personally did not suggest Brennan should be benched doesn’t negate the fact that many DID. If you didn’t see those posts, you weren’t paying attention. Do I really need to start quoting them?
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Everyone knows Brennan doesn’t have “it”. He’s soft with mediocre talent, and that’s how LSU had played until yesterday.
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I mean, TJ is more gifted physically, he’s more mobile, has a bigger arm and has the size to a hit!
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Sorry he has had 4 years to learn and a true freshman came in and made quicker decisions than he did. Thats not saying much about Brennan
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He is more likely to grad transfer out than get drafted at this point.
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Myles, with the “full playbook” managed a whopping 27 points in his first start. And an L
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:11 pm to slackster
Oh stfu
No ones “giddy” you fricking nerd.
No ones “giddy” you fricking nerd.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:19 pm to crawdaddy717
Rewatching the first quarter he looks the fricking part, just unraveled after the turnover which he didn’t do last week. He also had no run game to lean on like last week. Im glad he got these 2 games and experienced the highs and lows along with Johnson so they’ll be better served in the future. Really hope Myles is healthy.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:22 pm to TigerDat
quote:exactly. The same would’ve happened to Brennan. No running game and terrible pass protection any quarterback would struggle
if you think the game is different with Brennan yesterday, you are quite frankly a moron
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:37 pm to crawdaddy717
This week they will think Johnson is....it is what we do. However I will say, I did think Johnson brings a whole lot to the table that Finley does not, but Finley beat him out for a reason. I dont see it, but he did.
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