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re: Any thoughts on Jacob Hester's comments today on Finebaum...

Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:44 pm to
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said it ruined that season for people and that's why despite a 13-1 record that season is looked at as a failure


Only to dumbasses. No season where lsu wins the sec title is a failure. Regardless what ignorant fans on here say.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:44 pm to
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And LSU could have beaten msu, bama and ND this year with some lucky breaks or officials actually doing their job. but they didn't.


Where was the unlucky break in the MSU game equivalent to the UNC, UF, and Tennessee games lucky breaks?

Maybe Bama with the dropped passes, but those didn't guaranteed anything and weren't equivalent to a dropped pass in the endzone in the UNC game, the luck of the end of the UT game or the miraculous bounce on the fake field goal in the UF game.

ND? LSU was lucky to even be in that game. You realize that Fournette had two single plays that made up alone for the inept offense?
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1384 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:45 pm to
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yea, i'm not getting the naming the starter deal


Neither QB is that good. Does it really matter.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:45 pm to
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Declining SEC record three years in a row


Yeah lsu's record setting loss of juniors to the draft has had nothing to do with that. 22 juniors the last 4 years the next closest is bama with 12.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50677 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:45 pm to
Jacob giving zero
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98143 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:45 pm to
The No. 18 jersey carries a responsibility that doesn't end with one's playing days. He's let the team down by being one of Finebaum's minions.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:46 pm to
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Only to dumbasses. No season where lsu wins the sec title is a failure. Regardless what ignorant fans on here say.


Again, did I say it was a failure? No, but when you get embarrassed like that on a national stage and then expect it to just be ignored, then you are naive.

That performance single-handedly ruined the good will Les built up with many people that season. It was also just a train wreck people could sense coming from the Arkansas game until the NC.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:49 pm to
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That performance single-handedly ruined the good will Les built up with many people that season.


Again, only to dumbasses that dont matter. After that season we had 2 straight years of top 15 finishes.
Miles tenure has been tye most successful 10 year stretch in lsu history. Since he was hired no program has been ranked in the top 25 more weeks.no program has beaten more ranked teams. Only lsu fans would be unhappy with a coach that has a top 5 win % in sec history and the #1 ooc win% in sec history.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39110 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:49 pm to
These former football players are former football players. That means they're probably among the stupidest tranche of society.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:52 pm to
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It was also just a train wreck people could sense coming from the Arkansas game until the NC.


You mean the arky game where our offense had its best game against the #3 team?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:55 pm to
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gain, only to dumbasses that dont matter. After that season we had 2 straight years pf top 15 finishes.


2 straight years isn't that big of a deal, so please stop acting like it was something equivalent to FSU's top 10 streak.

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Miles tenure has been tye most successful 10 year stretch in lsu history. Since he was hired no program has been ranked in the top 25 more weeks.no program has beaten more ranked teams. Only lsu fans would be unhappy with a coach that has a top 5 win % in sec history and the #1 ooc win% in sec history.




1) He's been at LSU for 10 years. I'd hope he'd have a ton of wins against top 25 teams, and I'd also wonder how many of those top 25 finished in the top 25. He beat a top 10 Auburn team in 2008, but that team finished unranked.

2) No offense, but # of wins is a bit misleading when teams have 13-14 games a season almost guaranteed now compared to 11 before. Hell, there are teams that were 9-2 back in the day that didn't go to bowls, so harping on that success is a bit silly.

3) In 5 years, Saban achieved the same hardware as Miles has basically in 10 year and achieved it with a 1-loss team winning a title, not a two loss team.

4) OOC is great when you ignore his OOC losses to PSU, Clemson, and Notre Dame because apparently bowl games (which counted when Les was 4-0 in them from 2005-2008) don't really count anymore.

5) Les took over a national championship level team talent-wise when he got here. No other coach took over a team in the shape Les did in the SEC in likely the past 50 years. So I'd hope he'd be successful.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:57 pm to
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You mean the arky game where our offense had its best game against the #3 team?


Against an Arky team with a horrible defense that showed some flaws in LSU's offense that were later exploited by UGA and Bama? Yep. Arky was such an overrated team that year it was unbelievable.

Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
61875 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:03 pm to
I know Y'all all know more about LSU football than Jacob Hester
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12222 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:07 pm to
I was thinking Jacob Hester had earned the right to express his opinions on LSU football.
Certainly not on the level of posters on this site, but the right to modestly express himself on the subject...
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:13 pm to
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He's been at LSU for 10 years. I'd hope he'd have a ton of wins against top 25 teams


Your reading comprehension sucks or you're deliberately stupid. Allegedly, LSU as coached by Les Miles has more ranked wins than any other program during the same time frame.

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No offense, but # of wins is a bit misleading when teams have 13-14 games a season almost guaranteed now compared to 11 before. Hell, there are teams that were 9-2 back in the day that didn't go to bowls, so harping on that success is a bit silly.


Highest winning pct. of any LSU coach who lasted more than 2 seasons.

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In 5 years, Saban achieved the same hardware as Miles has basically in 10 year and achieved it with a 1-loss team winning a title, not a two loss team

He also achieved it with a 3-loss team winning a title, not a two loss

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OOC is great when you ignore his OOC losses to PSU, Clemson, and Notre Dame because apparently bowl games (which counted when Les was 4-0 in them from 2005-2008) don't really count anymore.

Yeah, blame Les for Penn State and Notre Dame, not the mulch they played on and the lame duck defensive coordinator....

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Les took over a national championship level team talent-wise when he got here. No other coach took over a team in the shape Les did in the SEC in likely the past 50 years. So I'd hope he'd be successful.


It's funny because you know you're wrong, so you hedge your bet by saying that it's only "likely" that no other coach inherited such a strong team. FYI, Paul Bryant stopped coaching only 32 years ago.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:14 pm to
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2 straight years isn't that big of a deal, so please stop acting like it was something equivalent to FSU's top 10 streak. 


Its been 3 years.

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5) Les took over a national championship level team talent-wise when he got here. No other coach took over a team in the shape Les did in the SEC in likely the past 50 years. So I'd hope he'd be successful.


Miles took over a 3 loss team that had loss less than 3 games in a season 3 times in 30 years.
Nick Saban took over a program coming off of back to back 10 win seasons and full of future nfl players and lost 4 games(2000),3 games (2001),5 games(2002),1 game(2003),3 games (2004).

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1) He's been at LSU for 10 years. I'd hope he'd have a ton of wins against top 25 teams, and I'd also wonder how many of those top 25 finished in the top 25. He beat a top 10 Auburn team in 2008, but that team finished unranked. 


Its the most successful 10 year stretch in lsu history.
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) No offense, but # of wins is a bit misleading when teams have 13-14 games a season almost guaranteed now compared to 11 before. Hell, there are teams that were 9-2 back in the day that didn't go to bowls, so harping on that success is a bit silly


This myth that winning 10 games every year is easy is bullshite. From 2009-2013 only 4 programs won 9 games each year. (Lsu, bama, oregonn nebraska) so no its not easy to win 10 games every year.
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In 5 years, Saban achieved the same hardware as Miles has basically in 10 year and achieved it with a 1-loss team winning a title, not a two loss team. 

Every program and coach in cfb comes up short when measured against Saban.
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In 5 years, Saban achieved the same hardware as Miles has basically in 10 year and achieved it with a 1-loss team winning a title, not a two loss team. 

Are you fricking serious? Only LSU fans would shite on our coaches great accomplishment of having the best ooc win % in sec history.
Miles has wins over Oregon, ohio state,va tech, west va (twice),miami ( top 10), arizona, arizona st, oregon state,tcu,washington (twice) and wisky.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 7:15 pm
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:16 pm to
Most of these posters are in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8329 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:21 pm to
The pumpers took a hit with this one. Jacob Hester is an LSU legend. It's not just all idiots that think LSU could be better off without Miles. Miles has been good for us, but I'm starting to think he may never lead us to an SEC championship again, amd I really believe we'll never see another national championship win under his tenure. We could easily be worse with whoever comes next but I'm just ready to begin the journey to another championship because it feels as if we've currently stalled.
Posted by Roarforthetigers
Metairie,la.
Member since Sep 2014
452 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:21 pm to
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"....loss 22 juniors last 4 years."


And the reason why we are losing so many jrs? Cause they are not loyal to Les stupidity while you have Qbs at Alabama playing for his third national championship.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:23 pm to
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The pumpers took a hit with this one. Jacob Hester is an LSU legend. It's not just all idiots that think LSU could be better off without Miles. Miles has been good for us, but I'm starting to think he may never lead us to an SEC championship again, amd I really believe we'll never see another national championship win under his tenure. We could easily be worse with whoever comes next but I'm just ready to begin the journey to another championship because it feels as if we've currently stalled.





For me this is a make or break season. A bunch of west teams have huge turnover and we didnt lose a ton to the draft. There is no excuse this year.
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