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re: Alabama recruiting vs LSU recruiting(football)
Posted on 10/24/12 at 5:23 pm to aglandry
Posted on 10/24/12 at 5:23 pm to aglandry
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According to Rivals, Alabama has had the top football recruiting class every year since 2008 except for 2009
so, they were #1 4 of the last 5 years. i wonder if they could weather the attrition we've had as well as miles has. i've never seen anything like it.
as far as being #1 4 out of 5, i don't believe it. and i don't because i really don't believe that much in the rankings. they are one indicator yes but much of a recruits ratings are determined after they commit; going to bama means you're movin' on up.
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 5:26 pm to Katy Tiger
I agree. What is it that translates to success then? Player development, teaching/coaching, luck, desire? I think Saban, Muschamp, Meyer, Kelly, etc. teach discipline,accountability and a strong mental approach to the game to dominate your opponent. This translates to a better performance during games in handling adversity and the will to win.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 5:29 pm to Methuselah
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If Auburn hadn't spent all their payroll on Newton, maybe they could have kept a few more of those Bama boys away from the Tide and evened things up a bit.
NOW I understand what Chizik meant by ALL IN
Posted on 10/24/12 at 5:30 pm to LSU GrandDad
I agree, because the media votes teams higher based on their coaching philosophy and Saban demands perfection and his teams play closer to perfection than a less disciplined coaching philosophy. Miles wants to do anything we have to do to win by at least 1 point, where Saban, Muschamp, etc want to destroy other teams. They press thinks higher of this philosophy.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 5:41 pm to TJG210
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Please don't bring thought and common sense to this board
Posted on 10/24/12 at 6:16 pm to aglandry
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According to Rivals, Alabama has had the top football recruiting class every year since 2008 except for 2009.In 2009 LSU was second.All things considered, Miles has done well against Saban at 3 wins & 3 losses.Maybe Miles is not as bad a coach as some people think.
Thank you for posting. Saban can not win without talent advantage. Given the same level of talent, Miles is a better coach. I think Spurrier is a better coach than Saban and Miles is 4-0 vs Spurrier.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 6:22 pm to aglandry
Florida state has been right up there with bama in all recent years and look what they have to show for it. It takes more than recruiting, Saban develops his talent. At least give the man some credit. And yes, Les is just as good if not better at developing talent.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 6:25 pm to CalTiger53
If you really believe that then why did Saban drill Miles on 1/9 with equal talent? Not flaming, just need to know your reasoning here. Spurrier is out of the convo as he has been resurrecting a horrible program....
Posted on 10/24/12 at 6:42 pm to aglandry
I'm not sure about Bama, but I like the fact that LSU has this success w/alot of homegrown La. boys. It says alot about our kids compared to the larger populated states.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 6:47 pm to MarlinMan
[quote]If you really believe that then why did Saban drill Miles on 1/9 with equal talent? Not flaming, just need to know your reasoning here. Spurrier is out of the convo as he has been resurrecting a horrible program....[/quote
If you really believe it, why Saban lost at home? Talent was snot equal. Saban had more 1rst and 2nd round draft choices than Miles had.
If you really believe it, why Saban lost at home? Talent was snot equal. Saban had more 1rst and 2nd round draft choices than Miles had.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 6:47 pm to aglandry
Rivals is run by a bama grad
Posted on 10/24/12 at 6:48 pm to aglandry
Wrong Board???
Posted on 10/24/12 at 6:52 pm to Mac
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Recruiting rankings are bull shite. Shepard and Loston were 5*. Claiborne was a 3*. Chiz has been pulling in solid classes at Auburn and look where that has gotten him. Miles would be considered a genius coach by many if he hadn't missed on qb recruits like he has.
Right on, then why Miles was expected to win the NC with these current players? We have horrible QB, receivers, and offensive line.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 7:01 pm to Mac
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after the HS season ends Bama will vault from wherever they are currently ranked to #1.
Bama out recruits everyone by a lot. They have the top ranked rivals class THIS year when you account for the number of recruits they have. In other words, their average recruit is rated higher than ours. When the numbers become even they will be ahead of us (USC is a wild card).
But that's not the only reason. Saban recruits fairly uniform classes. He doesn't develop holes in his roster like we do. E.g. No QB's a few years ago, shortage of good LBs last year, shortage of DTs next year.
With all that said, Miles does a great job...just not as good as you know who.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 7:07 pm to Penrod
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With all that said, Miles does a great job...just not as good as you know who.
So Miles is 3-3 against Saban with far less talent. Must mean Saban sucks at coaching.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 7:11 pm to The312
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Did you just try to use Miles' failure to beat Saban in recruiting as an excuse for Miles' failure to beat Saban on the field?
No, I'm not trying to make excuses or making excuses.Miles is 3-3 against Saban.One would assume that since Alabama is rated #1 by so-called recruiting experts that Alabama should beat LSU everytime.Most football analyst call Saban the greatest college football coach.If he is 1st in recruiting and coaching and many people think Miles is goofy as hell;then, one would think that Miles could never be able to beat a Saban recruited and coached team.So maybe, just maybe, Miles is a better coach than many of us on this board give him credit for.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 7:39 pm to aglandry
According to Rivals, Alabama has had the top football recruiting class every year since 2008 except for 2009.In 2009 LSU was second.All things considered, Miles has done well against Saban at 3 wins & 3 losses.Maybe Miles is not as bad a coach as some people think.
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 7:42 pm to aglandry
Their is the Saban factor in recruiting. Always an inevitable bump. I truly trust what Frank Wilson is doing and to me is the 2nd most valuable or ties Chavis in terms of value to the program.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 7:54 pm to aglandry
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No, I'm not trying to make excuses or making excuses.Miles is 3-3 against Saban.One would assume that since Alabama is rated #1 by so-called recruiting experts that Alabama should beat LSU everytime.Most football analyst call Saban the greatest college football coach.If he is 1st in recruiting and coaching and many people think Miles is goofy as hell;then, one would think that Miles could never be able to beat a Saban recruited and coached team.So maybe, just maybe, Miles is a better coach than many of us on this board give him credit for.
I agree. And I've found my fair share of faults with miles. A miles coached football team is easy to get frustrated by at times. However the facts say that he is one of the greatest college football coaches of our time and at the end of the day I'm happy as hell to have him.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 7:58 pm to Penrod
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Bama out recruits everyone by a lot
Not really.......
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But that's not the only reason. Saban recruits fairly uniform classes. He doesn't develop holes in his roster like we do. E.g. No QB's a few years ago, shortage of good LBs last year, shortage of DTs next year.
At Bama, yes......he wasn't as good at this when he was at LSU though.
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With all that said, Miles does a great job...just not as good as you know who.
2013 and 2014 will be GREAT years for LSU recruiting.....we aren't going anywhere
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