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After Bama, where are all those supporting Miles' offensive philosophy?

Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:48 am
Posted by marklsu
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:48 am
We did all the right things:
Controlled the line of scrimmage.
Controlled possession.
Forced a turnover.
Kept Bama's offense on the sidelines.
Ran the ball.
Ran the ball.
Ran the ball.

Our opponent:
Took advantage of SHORT field situations.
Scored off an interception.
Scored after a failed squib punt.
Scored THROUGH THE AIR, exposing us with a D-level QB talent & an A-level wide out.

When the game was on the line, Bama was forced to throw and executed. Bama is a run-based, defensive oriented team. Those two monikers are our identity as well. The difference is, OUR passing/QB play/Receiving corp HAVE NOT BEEN DEVELOPED and cannot execute.
Posted by Partiger
Member since Nov 2014
96 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:50 am to
Actually, a win by LSu would have been worse for the future because Miles would never abandon 70s style.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:50 am to
philosophy was good. execution was not. it's as simple as that.

when you have open receivers and you throw them shite passes or they drop easy completions, you can't fault the philosophy.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:52 am to
Right here.

The philosophy worked nearly perfectly last night. We controlled the line of scrimmage and time of possession, and our defense played great. If it weren't for a couple key drops, a couple questionable penalties, and mediocre QB play, we would've beaten the #5 team last night.

ETA: Although I do agree with this:
quote:

OUR passing/QB play/Receiving corp HAVE NOT BEEN DEVELOPED and cannot execute.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 11:54 am
Posted by tigbit
Member since Jun 2011
2800 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:52 am to
Philosophy is fine for the personel we have. You have to know your limitations and at QB we have many. How was his philosophy with Mett?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:53 am to
I don't like it, but Miles and the coaches see what capabilities are or aren't there every day in practice. Maybe they're running an offense that, in their minds, doesn't ask these kids to do something they can't. Either that or Miles head is forever stuck in the Big 10.

ETA: got to start adding the fade to any spot on the field with the toss dive and the short side sweep as being one of the faves
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 11:56 am
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:53 am to
Miles did not game plan for Quinn going into full dropsy derp mode.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31638 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Posted by Patrick_Bateman on 11/9 at 11:52 am to marklsu
Right here.

The philosophy worked nearly perfectly last night. We controlled the line of scrimmage and time of possession, and our defense played great. If it weren't for a couple key drops, a couple questionable penalties, and mediocre QB play, we would've beaten the #5 team last night.


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Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:55 am to
quote:

The philosophy worked nearly perfectly last night. We controlled the line of scrimmage and time of possession, and our defense played great. If it weren't for a couple key drops, a couple questionable penalties, and mediocre QB play, we would've beaten the #5 team last night.


that's a bingo
Posted by PG
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2012
2590 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:56 am to
Miles plays to keep it close going into the 4th
We kicked them until it counted then 3rd and Chavis showed up.
It was a replay of 2012 when AL scores twice in the last minute of both halves. Game was on the line then Chavis choked once again in the last minute and got punked in OT bad.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51268 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:56 am to
quote:

philosophy was good. execution was not. it's as simple as that. 




This.. game plan was great. Players need to execute.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 11:56 am
Posted by marklsu
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:58 am to
The philosophy of conservative-run based/strong defensive play is very sound. It probably works 70-80% of the time. But when you square up against another team on your level, who has a long history of excelling. You need that extra dimension.

We need a better coaching from Cameron and Adam Henry. A credible air game must be present. Something we can fall back on since we run 70%+ of the time, that remaining 30% has to be clutch.

Is it QB coaching? Recruiting? Philosophy of sticking a dual threat QB into a Pro style offense? Play calling when we decide to pass?
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:59 am to
Philosophy was perfect and we were in position to win. I see no issue.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7548 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:04 pm to
I think the philosophy fits the talent we have.

I question the "all-pass" OT strategy when the run worked the entire game before. Then again, minus one drop there and we would have had a first.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:10 pm to
He still won't
Posted by marklsu
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:11 pm to
Agreed AndyCBR....

It would be nice though if we had more production from the passing game throughout so that situation in OT had a more probable chance of success.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Dynamis
Member since Sep 2006
661 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:12 pm to
Some of our fanbase either have blinders on and are loyal to a fault or just plain naive. OUR OFFENSE SUCKS! We do not know how to use the passing game. Our receivers are blocking or running decoy routes 90% of the time. 4 and 5 star decoys. We have more punts than pass completions to a WR this year, THAT SUCKS.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7548 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:16 pm to
No doubt.

I can't speak for everybody but for me that is the most frustrating thing for the future outlook. Not sure what will change that "fixes" the weak passing game.

Will Jennings improve enough or just plateau like JJ? It seems Harris isn't going to get the playing time to develop under CLM.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:16 pm to
You think we should have thrown it MORE than 26 times?
Posted by RudeDog11
Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
359 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:20 pm to
The problem is we only seem to have 2 pass playes, the fade and the streak down the sideline. It doesn't matter what down or distance, that's what you are going to get. I do not understand why we continue to call 20 yard pass plays on 3rd and 4 or 5. We never use the middle of the field and we rarely throw the ball on 1st down, we only throw it when we have to.
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