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re: A tribute to Tiger Stadium...best stadium in the SEC!
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:14 am to SG_Geaux
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:14 am to SG_Geaux
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I just can't see this NOLA to BR rail thing happening. BR just does not have the public transportation for it.
Sure it would be great for people going to NOLA from BR, but I don't see how it does anything to help get people to BR.
It's going to happen. There's complete support for it in both cities, and a delegation already met with the Transportation Department in Washington.
I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 7:32 pm
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:22 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Nice comparison, and I do rather Tiger Stadium.
But the outside of TS Needs to conform or match, the North , South ,East and West do not match in styles. Now it looks Frankenstein.
And to be Honest it Needs a Good Cleaning too (east & west sides).
We need better seats in the end zones as well. Give us chair backs, we have paid for all these Tradition Fee increases. And the inside End zones areas have not been Improved to be honest. Look at old Texas Stadium, they had Chair backs throwout the whole stadium, just like the Superdome. LSU needs to do it right the 1st time when making improvements.
But the outside of TS Needs to conform or match, the North , South ,East and West do not match in styles. Now it looks Frankenstein.
And to be Honest it Needs a Good Cleaning too (east & west sides).
We need better seats in the end zones as well. Give us chair backs, we have paid for all these Tradition Fee increases. And the inside End zones areas have not been Improved to be honest. Look at old Texas Stadium, they had Chair backs throwout the whole stadium, just like the Superdome. LSU needs to do it right the 1st time when making improvements.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 12:44 am
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:31 am to 24chevrolet48
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But the outside of TS Needs to conform or match, the North , South ,East and West do not match in styles.
Agreed.
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We need better seats in the end zones as well. Give us chair backs,
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LSU Athletic Director Joe Alleva’s speech Monday to the Baton Rouge Press Club ran the gamut of issues concerning Tiger athletics, all the way from gameday traffic issues to beer sales.
"...I could see even reducing the size of Tiger Stadium by creating bigger seats for people. You take out bench seats and you put in really nice, comfortable seats. Again, fan experience. I could see that happening down the road.”
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And the inside End zones areas have not been Improved to be honest.
If Alleva really is serious about making restrooms out of dorm space, I predict an over haul of Tiger Stadium's interior spaces will be in the next round of TAF-funded projects.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:39 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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t's going to happen. There's complete support for it in both cities, and a delegation already met with Transportation Department in Washington.
I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.
OK. So let's say it does. How exactly are people going to get around Baton Rouge ?
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:45 am to SG_Geaux
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OK. So let's say it does. How exactly are people going to get around Baton Rouge ?
The new trolley will connect the LSU campus to downtown...
The BR-NOLA rail will most likely have a stop on Government Street...
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Startup costs for a passenger train linking Baton Rouge and New Orleans on existing freight tracks would be $262 million, about half a previous estimate, with federal funds underwriting up to 80 percent of that amount, according to a rail study released Tuesday.
Tickets could be as low as $10 each way. Ridership for twice daily service is estimated at 210,000 in the first year, HNTB said. The service would include stops in between the two cities, and could ultimately grow to more frequent service with a possible station near the New Orleans International Airport.
Consultants envision a convenient alternative for the 1.4 million people who live in the booming parishes along the rail line. A passenger train service would allow riders to work during commutes; offer an evacuation route during hurricanes, especially to Baton Rouge hospitals; and supply easy connections to events, such as LSU and New Orleans Saints football games, Mardi Gras and Jazz Fest.
BR-N.O. passenger rail service estimated at $262 million
Louisiana delegation meets with feds over New Orleans-Baton Rouge passenger rail
Rail from Baton Rouge to New Orleans could cost as little as $10 a trip, study says
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:45 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Best there is.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:47 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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I just can't see this NOLA to BR rail thing happening. BR just does not have the public transportation for it.
Sure it would be great for people going to NOLA from BR, but I don't see how it does anything to help get people to BR.
It's going to happen. There's complete support for it in both cities, and a delegation already met with Transportation Department in Washington.
I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.
I'd be on that in a second. Drive to Baton Rouge. Go to my favorite place on Earth and take a train (I like trains) to New Orleans. Heck yeah! Bypass all the congestion near Boutte and the airport and stuff, go right into downtown NOLA.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:52 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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.I could see even reducing the size of Tiger Stadium by creating bigger seats for people. You take out bench seats and you put in really nice, comfortable seats. Again, fan experience.
Well I hate to sound like I'm doubting Joe's words. I really like LSU Athletic Director Joe Alleva. I think he's Honest and a Forward thinker. But I can see those "Bigger seats; .. Comfortable seats;" not going to the North or South End Zones. I bet East & West sidelines!! Just say...
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 1:12 am
Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:58 am to TigersOfGeauxld
you are making argument that tiger stadium is the best place to watch a college football game. that is a very very subjective thing. for some people it is, for others it isnt. i mentioned the reasons why .. FOR ME... it might not be.
your response then either changes the issue (number of premium seats compared to other stadiums/money generated per seat) or changes it to future tense vs present tense (once bathroom traffic is fixed/once light rail and trolley are built/once hotels and restaurants are built).
for 25 years ive suffered through absurd traffic jams if i want to use restroom. i have no doubt one day it will change, but it hasnt changed.
you mention light rail between cities and a trolley up and down river as if it is going to be plopped in right quick. im well aware of the discussions on these types of things and even if they all go forward - this takes a very very long time to be built.
if and when all these above things get built, im sure it will be great. but it will not be designed to handle the load of people leaving tiger stadium at 10:30 PM. a light rail between cities is meant for other purposes - not primarily for mass transit of fans 7 nights out of the year.
and all that aside, we are still left with a stadium that in MY OPINION is a nice historic place but with a TERRIBLY designed south endzone addition and some really tacky designed crap all around the site (ex: the arched gates at ground level are just awful in my opinion).
my god man, you need to understand you are dealing with something enormously subjective. you cant force or declare tiger stadium as being the best college football venue any more than you can declare chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla ice cream.
the funny thing is, tiger stadium might be my favorite place to watch a game - but if it is - it is for none of the reasons you put forth.
your response then either changes the issue (number of premium seats compared to other stadiums/money generated per seat) or changes it to future tense vs present tense (once bathroom traffic is fixed/once light rail and trolley are built/once hotels and restaurants are built).
for 25 years ive suffered through absurd traffic jams if i want to use restroom. i have no doubt one day it will change, but it hasnt changed.
you mention light rail between cities and a trolley up and down river as if it is going to be plopped in right quick. im well aware of the discussions on these types of things and even if they all go forward - this takes a very very long time to be built.
if and when all these above things get built, im sure it will be great. but it will not be designed to handle the load of people leaving tiger stadium at 10:30 PM. a light rail between cities is meant for other purposes - not primarily for mass transit of fans 7 nights out of the year.
and all that aside, we are still left with a stadium that in MY OPINION is a nice historic place but with a TERRIBLY designed south endzone addition and some really tacky designed crap all around the site (ex: the arched gates at ground level are just awful in my opinion).
my god man, you need to understand you are dealing with something enormously subjective. you cant force or declare tiger stadium as being the best college football venue any more than you can declare chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla ice cream.
the funny thing is, tiger stadium might be my favorite place to watch a game - but if it is - it is for none of the reasons you put forth.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 2:08 am to gerkin
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but to shoot down multiple things that you don't care for is pretty arrogant. As if it was supposed to be built to your expectations.
Either you like the place or you don't. Going into this "I had to do this and deal with this and it took me this long to go to the bathroom and
" does nothing.
If you don't like the place, you don't like it.
More room for us.
Either you like the place or you don't. Going into this "I had to do this and deal with this and it took me this long to go to the bathroom and
" does nothing. If you don't like the place, you don't like it.
More room for us.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 2:26 am
Posted on 5/28/14 at 2:49 am to la_birdman
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion but to shoot down multiple things that you don't care for is pretty arrogant. As if it was supposed to be built to your expectations.
Either you like the place or you don't. Going into this "I had to do this and deal with this and it took me this long to go to the bathroom and " does nothing.
If you don't like the place, you don't like it.
More room for us.
man, im just answering the original posters question. of course i dont expect things to be designed to my expectations. i am an architect and design for a living, so i believe i do have some insight into the process.
if anything is arrogant, its proclaiming that tiger stadium is the best place to watch a college football game - as if it is an indisputable fact of the world - and not allowing others to disagree. there isn't a wrong or right.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 2:59 am
Posted on 5/28/14 at 3:46 am to gerkin
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its proclaiming that tiger stadium is the best place to watch a college football game
As far as SEC stadiums go, it is, and for the reasons I've given. I've backed up my assertion with facts.
- Tiger Stadium is designed with more exits than most if not all other SEC stadiums. This means fans can more easily get to and leave their seats.
- Tiger Stadium has the most chair back seats of all SEC stadiums. Not only are chair back seats more comfortable and add to the fan's enjoyment, they keep things like this from happening...
- Tiger Stadium has more suites than every SEC stadium except Bryant-Denny. However since Tiger Stadium's suites are generally larger than BDS's suites...23 vs 16... Tiger Stadium actually has the highest suite capacity in the SEC. Which means more fans sit in comfortable premium seats in Tiger Stadium than they do anywhere else in the SEC. That also means Tiger Stadium generates more money per seat per game than any other stadium. Which helps keep Tiger Stadium's ticket prices among the lowest in the conference, if not the lowest.
- Tiger Stadium seats are generally closer to the field than is the case in other SEC stadiums. That's especially true when compared with BDS.
- Tiger Stadium has more club seating than every other SEC stadium, with the exception of Arkansas' Reynolds Razorback Stadium, a much smaller stadium. Again, that means more fans sit in comfort, and LSU makes more money per seat. Win win.
- LSU is adding a lot of value to the area surrounding Tiger Stadium. There will be light rail, with a connection to train service to New Orleans. There will be hotels, restaurants, bars, and shops built right across the street from the stadium. No other stadium has plans to do anything like this.
- LSU has an unmatched gameday atmosphere. Most fans of other schools will freely admit this. The food and tailgating here are unmatched anywhere else. The projects planned for the future will only enhance that.
- Tiger Stadium's new south end zone addition was designed unlike any other stadium addition in the SEC. Not only does it keep seats close to the field, it offers unmatched access to amenities...
No where else will fans be just steps away from restrooms/concessions/stairs/elevators. No where.
- Finally, there are plans in place to improve the fan experience even more. LSU is studying how to create more restrooms from old dorm space. LSU is actively working with the City of Baton Rouge to improve traffic flow before and after the games. The new trolley and the new bars, restaurants, shops, and hotels across the street from Tiger Stadium will both give fans a reason to hang around after the game and help with regards to parking and traffic. No school is working harder to improve the fan experience than LSU is.
You keep saying this is all subjective, Well it's not all subjective. There are concrete, indisputable facts that separate Tiger Stadium from every other stadium in the SEC. And that gap is only going to grow larger in the future.
Period, end of discussion.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 5/28/14 at 4:31 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Man you just don't seem to understand that it isn't a right or wrong issue. Citing number of exits or money generated per seat or future plans for rail (or anything) doesn't equate to being the best place for any given person.
Let us take cars, for example. You could cite torque and horsepower and the kind of leather and amenities ins Porsche 911 and tell me future models will have certain additional features - and thus Porsche 911 provides the best driving experience. I am telling you I prefer a BMW.
On issues of experiential
Qualities and style you cannot say any given thing is the best. It is preposterous.
Let us take cars, for example. You could cite torque and horsepower and the kind of leather and amenities ins Porsche 911 and tell me future models will have certain additional features - and thus Porsche 911 provides the best driving experience. I am telling you I prefer a BMW.
On issues of experiential
Qualities and style you cannot say any given thing is the best. It is preposterous.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:35 pm to gerkin
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Qualities and style you cannot say any given thing is the best. It is preposterous.
Except the things I listed are verifiable, quantitative factors that are indisputable advantages Tiger Stadium has over the rest of the stadiums in the conference.
In the case of BDS vs TS, for example, the sideline seats at BDS are curved away from the field to the point where there's more than an end zone amount of space at the 50 yard line. In the case of the right side of the pic, there's space for two end zones. Because believe it or not, the field at BDS is off-center.
Those 50 yard line seats should be the best seats in the house, but they're not. And since the sideline upper deck seats at BDS follow that same curve they all end up being farther away from the field than the comparable seats at Tiger Stadium.
Whereas Tiger Stadium's sidelines run in a straight line and as a result the seats are much closer to the field. And the field at Tiger Stadium is at least dead center. Tiger Stadium was just designed better from the outset than was BDS.
And don't get me started on the end zone upper decks...Tiger Stadium's south end zone upper deck seats are only about as far away as the first few rows in the east and west upper decks.
Whereas the old school end zone upper decks at BDS hang the fans out over the sidewalks outside of the stadium.
It's just not possible to be further away from the field than is true at BDS. Tiger Stadium seating is infinitely superior in this regard.
The fan experience at Tiger Stadium is just much better as a result.
DWI
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:55 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
i consider a higher number of suites a bad thing
id rather have seating for regular alumni, not rich corporates
when you have a team with a ton of premium seating you are only showing that your program only cares about money not alumni
id rather have seating for regular alumni, not rich corporates
when you have a team with a ton of premium seating you are only showing that your program only cares about money not alumni
Posted on 5/28/14 at 2:00 pm to TJG210
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bathrooms
Maybe it's just me but IDGAF what the shitter looks like as long as it's relatively clean.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 2:14 pm to Old Money
It will be cool to be in line and be able to see the game. That could be a possibility with the new bathrooms.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 3:33 pm to runningTiger
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i consider a higher number of suites a bad thing
id rather have seating for regular alumni, not rich corporates
when you have a team with a ton of premium seating you are only showing that your program only cares about money not alumni
You'd have a point except for the fact that general seat attendance is on the decline everywhere, not just Tiger Stadium. That's why the smart money is on adding premium seating.
In this day and age of HD TV, stadiums need to offer compelling reasons for fans to leave the comfort of their living rooms and their HD TV's. Things like comfortable seats, good sightlines, and easy access to/from seating are examples of stadiums catering to a better fan experience.
Tiger Stadium offers more and better of each than any other stadium in the SEC. The ticket prices are among the lowest in the conference. And we've added a good bit of relatively cheap Standing Room Only (SRO) space that will make it possible to view a game at Tiger Stadium even more cheaply. We'll have more SRO, in fact, than anywhere else with the possible exception of the newly-renovated Kyle Field.
Tiger Stadium was well designed from the outset, and LSU has improved and continues to improve the fan experience to the point where it's already unmatched and will only widen that gap in the future.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 5/28/14 at 3:40 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
That's going to be one drunkass train.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 4:06 pm to LSU Patrick
Recall taking it to games as a child (60's) with parents and was pretty racious then!
Remember the tipsy would have hard time getting off that thing when would let you out right behind old Alex Box!
Any other old timers?
Remember the tipsy would have hard time getting off that thing when would let you out right behind old Alex Box!
Any other old timers?
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