re: A philisophical question...Is LSU football fun anymore?

I'm not saying that I am bored with LSU football. This program is still in good shape, and I supported it during the Archer, Hallman, and DiNardo years. I always will. However, many of the games have been rather boring to be honest. Maybe it's me. Maybe it is that I have become spoiled. I don't really know. However, I just know that I find myself expecting a punt or worse each time the offense steps on the field, even more so with Lee at QB.

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You're easily in the top-5 of Miles-haters. Congrats.

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Nice try, but I don't hate Miles. I think he's a good person, well intentioned and probably believes in what he is doing. I'm not a fan of his methodology.

I think the same could have been said when Saban was here. Everyone was bitching about how he would answer questions and was pleasant with the media. If we win, I can tolerate anyone, if we lose, I can tolerate no one. Simple as that.

I am not one that can say that I do not have fun at the games. I just love to be at Tiger Stadium. With this said, I do expect more whenever I see top 5 or 10 recruiting classes every year. It seems that we have a crap load of talent and players who are fun to watch, but good ole Les doesn't seem to want to let them play. ei: Keiland Williams Russell Sheppard. Lets have an 18 yard gain and get the crowd fired up, and then take him out and go back to flat uninspired football. Boring!

This topic is really sad. But to be completely honest, I asked myself this after watching a lackluster performance and not entirely enjoying the game on saturday. I came up with a different opinion then you did. Which is all this is, an opinion topic. Neither of us is going to convince the other that he is right just as neither of us will agree on what makes a real fan.

I still enjoy the games. I am younger, 22 to be exact, and only have next year left in my beloved Death Valley that has been my second home fro the last 18 years since my dad took me to my first game and I have been to all but 6 home games since that day. I am not spoiled by our recent success. Saturday I was.

Do I enjoy seeing our Tigers lose? Yes and No. I enjoy seeing them play, I don't like it when we lose. But I still pull for them. I still talk about them year round. I still know more about LSU football than my major at the university. But you are not even asking about losing. You are asking about winning.

Do I enjoy seeing our Tigers win? Absolutely. DO I sometimes wish they would play better or we would have called better play-calls? Sometimes yes. Am I qualified to do any better? Haha...no. Does that rationalize my argument? Maybe not to you, but it does to me.

Now let me tell you what I am not enjoying. This is no flame and this is not meant to demean anyone or what have you. This is my honest opinion.

I am utterly disgusted of LSU fans who think they know more than the coaching staff. I am tired of hearing boos from our "fans" and calling for another player who hasn't thrown the ball ALL year to play quaterback. I am tired of fans who think that winning isn't enough. I am tired of fans who turn off the TV if the Tigers are having a rough game. I am tired of having to hear people complain about the games. I am sick of the glass half empty approach most take to football. (Which is just a by product of that is how most people approach life)

I love the Tigers. Therefore it is always fun for me to watch them play. Win, lose, tie...I enjoy watching LSU football. Thats why I do it. IF you don't enjoy LSU football...why do you do it? What keeps you there? I'm not trying to tell you to "jump off the bandwagon"...but how about you evaluate yourself before you evaluate another man.

Les Miles is a solid individual and a winner. IF he doesn't win pretty enough for you, well I don't really know what to say. I still love LSU football so I still love the games.

I just wish so many of you could understand that there is so much more to life then being so negative all the time. There is a great hope that is found in a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and I think that above all allows me the ability to continue to love LSU football. Because it is not my escape from a crazy life. It is entertainment...and I love it. I don't mean this to come off as antagonistic. So if you would like to talk to me on this issue, I would be glad to chat. Just let me know and I'll send you my email.

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The exceptions do exist, but mostly when the team has several weeks to focus on a game plan (bowls are notable as an example here) and when we ou-talent and "out team-speed" the opposition. In the case of GT, ND and OSU, both were evident, thus the wins. In the case of Miami, it was a good game plan against an over-rated team. ND was also severely over-rated.

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This is what i love....when they play poor its Miles' fault, when they crush someone it's the players or the opponent was overrated.

I honestly think that the publicity of recruiting is a reason for some of the negativity

LSU fans that normally would know nothing except what they see on Saturdays now know how highly rated our recruits are, and then they hear how highly rated Florida, Alabama recruits are and see the large gap in utilizing the talent we have

fans now know how much talent is being wasted whereas in the past this wasn't much of an issue for the fans

The pre game,the 1/2 time and the post game=hell yes.the game=hell no.

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jbrau22

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I really respect your post and the time you took to make it, don't agree with everything but like you said, it's opinion. Some of the things you mentioned that I can answer have already been stated. But to your other points...

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I am utterly disgusted of LSU fans who think they know more than the coaching staff.

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I don't think I know more, but I can see problem areas that aren't being addressed, many of them have been mentioned by posters in the thread. How long do we wait to see that the problems haven't been fixed before we voice concern?

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I am tired of hearing boos from our "fans" and calling for another player who hasn't thrown the ball ALL year to play quaterback.

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I've never boo'd an LSU player in my life and never will.

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I am tired of fans who think that winning isn't enough.

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Losing some is ok, looking awful while both winning and losing, isn't.

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I am tired of having to hear people complain about the games. I am sick of the glass half empty approach most take to football.

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And fans are sick of looking at a poor product put on the field week in and week out, after having 4 top 10 recruiting classes in a row and paying coaches millions of dollars and having world class facilities. So it goes both ways.

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I love the Tigers. Therefore it is always fun for me to watch them play. Win, lose, tie...I enjoy watching LSU football.

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We all love them, that's why we are here, when you are disappointed with someone in your life that you love, do you sit down and discuss it with them and try to work it out, or do you ignore it?

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IF you don't enjoy LSU football...why do you do it? What keeps you there?

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I just started NOT enjoying it recently, therefore I am wrestling with my emotions and decisions about watching it in the FUTURE, if they continue down this sorry path. You don't stop loving something and stop watching something you've been loving and watching for 30 years, it's a PROCESS of realization and change, and wondering whether or not you should feel that way.

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I just wish so many of you could understand that there is so much more to life then being so negative all the time.

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I'm not religious, but I'm not negative either. I'm just trying to have a reality check on where our team is at this point in the season, and if our coach has something to do with it.

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Conclusion: The last 2 years of Les Miles at LSU has sucked the oxygen out of the room. LSU football is no longer fun.

Your thoughts?

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If you can't get up for and have fun at a Tiger game, you need to move somewhere where there is no football. You and all of your ilk are lower than whale shite. Period. Nothing will ever satisfy any of you. If LSU went undefeated and won the NC all of you would find SOME reason to bitch like old women. Jesus I pity your families. It must really be terrible to live with malcontents like you lowlife sacks of shite.