re: A list of all of Miles' early exits to the NFL...

I agree with you completely.

Thinking about it now, how would Tyrann Mathieu be classified?

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Hey Sammy, let's say you are a student, I'll give you $100 today if you have A's, B's, and C's on your report card for the Fall semester. But, if you work hard for the Spring semester, and make all A's and B's, I'll give you $500.

What's the smart decision?

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For Alfred Blue to quintuple his rookie salary, he would somehow have to catapult himself from the seventh round to a top ten pick. I find this, let's say, unlikely.

A better comparison would be, "I'll give you $100 today if you have A's, B's, and C's on your report card for the Fall semester. But, if you work hard for the Spring semester, and don't miss even a single question on any test, I'll give you $500."

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Alfred Blue

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Ego Ferguson

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Michael Ford

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Bennie Logan

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Sam Montgomery

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Kevin Minter

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Barkevious Mingo

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Stevan Ridley

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Jamarcus Russell

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All were 4th year Jrs (or Srs in Blue's case), who had presumedly graduated. They are not in the same ballpark as 3-year players who leave. There is a huge difference, and only an anti-Miles bias would allow you to not concede this point.

Lists like these don't tell you much unless you compare them to the same lists from other top schools.

There is a trend in college football that players are leaving earlier. As a team with a pile of elite talent, it will hit us harder than most.

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He has elgibility left, he is an early departure.

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his initial eligibility was up and was granted an extra year, which he declined to use...that's not "leaving early". But I know you won't let objectiveness interfere with the narrative...frankly anyone who has been on the team for 4 years, which may or may not include a redshirt year, isn't "leaving early".

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This is a direct reflection of the change in NFL rookie wage scale.

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I have seen several lists saying that LSU as having 7 guys leaving early though. I know it's dumb to count Blue as leaving early, just saying that when you see those lists showing how many guys are leaving early from each school, they are probably counting Blue.

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Doesn't make it any less wrong

Is there a point to this thread?

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Hey Sammy, let's say you are a student, I'll give you $100 today if you have A's, B's, and C's on your report card for the Fall semester. But, if you work hard for the Spring semester, and make all A's and B's, I'll give you $500.

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So dumb... And how can you compare a guy that have a career ending injury is just beyond stupid to me, comparing him to a student?

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It's actually comical that people cling to the "Miles is the reason they're leaving early" thing. Literally the numbers exponentially increase the year after the new CBA as compared to before. I guess Miles became a major arsehole in that one year stretch right guys?

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Yeah, it's dumb. LSU has just been unlucky (or lucky depending upon how you look at it) the past couple of years to be in a situation where we lost more guys than other programs. Firstly, a disproportionate amount of our "early departures" were redshirt juniors. They were really here for four years and decided to stay and play their senior (read: redshirt junior) seasons even though they could have left even a year earlier. So while we have had a lot of guys leave, it's not as bad as sounds.

Secondly, when guys leave early, that makes room for other guys to get a lot of playing time earlier than they would have otherwise. So you lose a bunch of guys one year, other guys become starters a year early, and if they play well, then that sets you up to lose more guys early next year. It can be a vicious cycle, but eventually the pendulum will swing back the other way.