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A Booty movie "Work horses"-Link added
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:57 am
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:57 am
Just heard him interviewed on Tim Fletcher show. Sounds like a movement is being started. Kickstarter campaign "Work horses". Already picked up by director. About the 80% of atheletes that come from nothing and have nothing while all the money being made off them. What happens to the player the rest of the week when the Saturday night lights go out.
5 Min video on Kickstarter explaining it
5 Min video on Kickstarter explaining it
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:14 am to jondavid11
The rest of the week all they have to do is go to school for free, getting an education that costs many tens of thousands of dollars at the least, and will prepare them for life. If they are uninterested in that, they can go work out in absolutely stunning state of the art facilities with the best training minds in the country detailing the workouts. They can eat at a scientifically optimized training table several times a day, with large amounts of high quality food at their disposal. Along with the workouts, this allows them to potentially realize the dream of playing professional sports.
They can stroll campus and town, and enjoy an extremely high position in the social pecking order, while wearing clothing and shoes provided to them for free by major manufacturers through the university. And if they feel they are being treated poorly, they can stop doing it and let someone who gets it take a shot.
If the names we see on the jerseys today were not out there, there would still be jerseys playing with other names, and everyone would still watch.
They can stroll campus and town, and enjoy an extremely high position in the social pecking order, while wearing clothing and shoes provided to them for free by major manufacturers through the university. And if they feel they are being treated poorly, they can stop doing it and let someone who gets it take a shot.
If the names we see on the jerseys today were not out there, there would still be jerseys playing with other names, and everyone would still watch.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:19 am to yallallcrazy
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yallallcrazy
My pants just got tighter
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:27 am to jondavid11
I saw this on my facebook feed and watched the video. ESPN is not going to be happy about Ray Ray and Desmond being part of this.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:27 am to jondavid11
How about the fact that for a lot of the young men being "exploited" would not get into college without an athletic scholarship and the connections these guys make while college athletes that none of us do for other opportunities outside of the sport they play.
You don't think their coaches, who know a lot of high priority people at a lot of places, would help them get a job if their playing careers don't workout or the fact that their name alone could get them a very nice job.
You don't think their coaches, who know a lot of high priority people at a lot of places, would help them get a job if their playing careers don't workout or the fact that their name alone could get them a very nice job.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:30 am to yallallcrazy
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The rest of the week all they have to do is go to school for free, getting an education that costs many tens of thousands of dollars at the least, and will prepare them for life. If they are uninterested in that, they can go work out in absolutely stunning state of the art facilities with the best training minds in the country detailing the workouts. They can eat at a scientifically optimized training table several times a day, with large amounts of high quality food at their disposal. Along with the workouts, this allows them to potentially realize the dream of playing professional sports.
I love how the people who are against college athletes getting paid or say they get all this stuff for free, fail to acknowledge the disparity in money made on their backs as opposed to what they actually get out of it.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:38 am to Kracka
He got way more out of lsu than lsu got out of him.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:40 am to Kracka
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I love how the people who are against college athletes getting paid or say they get all this stuff for free, fail to acknowledge the disparity in money made on their backs as opposed to what they actually get out of it.
To me it's not an issue if they get paid or not. They probably do deserve some type of stipend, but the notion that they are exploited and treated like meat are overblown. These young men don't do what they do for free they get things in return. Is it enough probably not but why not just say they need more instead of making them seem like slaves to push their agenda.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:47 am to geauxtigers33
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Is it enough probably not but why not just say they need more instead of making them seem like slaves to push their agenda.
I've always felt that the players hold all the power. If they are as exploited as they claim they are, they should just strike. Stop playing, stop practicing, stop working out. There is no way in hell, that a power 5 school can overcome that. There wouldn't be enough players to field teams for games. Do what Mizzou was going to do, but for a better reason, and follow through with it......IF things are so bad.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:34 am to Kracka
i love how people who are for it don't realize that only a hand full of university actually make enough to cover. What about every other university in the state other than LSU? how are they going to pay the players? All of this is different with the cost of living stipend now. So they get free room, food, and education and a check every month. The real problem is the sports that don't get full rides (baseball gets 11.7 scholarships to divide among 35 guys) Ask booty how much money he spends a month in student loan payments? I understand it was different back then, but thing have changed. Athletes on full rides are getting checks. No one is going to sleep at night hungry, and if they are, they are spending their money on the wrong things...
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:13 am to Kracka
I do not fail to acknowledge there is money. I fail to acknowledge that that specific person is necessary to make the money. How many superb teenage athletes either never play, or succumb to drugs or grades or whatever. We don't even know their names. We know the names of the ones who do play, whoever they are. What if LF had gone a different route, and dropped out of school at 14? Would LSU football have ceased to exist?
I also fail to acknowledge that they are not compensated. What if we gave them a stipend but they had to buy all their own gear, pay market price for all training table meals, pay tuition, and pay for the weight room and trainers at the price such a gym membership and personal trainer would command on the open market? Then I might think we would be having a fair discussion.
I'm OK with adding a few dollars to a scholly for pocket money, but I think the whole exploitation argument is insane.
I also fail to acknowledge that they are not compensated. What if we gave them a stipend but they had to buy all their own gear, pay market price for all training table meals, pay tuition, and pay for the weight room and trainers at the price such a gym membership and personal trainer would command on the open market? Then I might think we would be having a fair discussion.
I'm OK with adding a few dollars to a scholly for pocket money, but I think the whole exploitation argument is insane.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:16 am to Kracka
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I've always felt that the players hold all the power. If they are as exploited as they claim they are, they should just strike. Stop playing, stop practicing, stop working out. There is no way in hell, that a power 5 school can overcome that. There wouldn't be enough players to field teams for games. Do what Mizzou was going to do, but for a better reason, and follow through with it......IF things are so bad.
But someone else would play. And they'd be good too.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:49 pm to yallallcrazy
A quick google search says that 70% of College graduates have student loan debt.
LINK
So they free room and board, an education, access to an invaluable network of Alumni, and are probably better off than (to be fair) 60% of graduates. They are getting paid and are paid better than the majority of students and that compensation lasts at a minimum 10 additional years, because they don't have loans to pay off.
The real issue is that the players do not take full advantage of what they are offered. The ones that fail to use the teaching, tutoring, help and every other option afforded to athletes are making a case to tear down a system that actually is extremely beneficial to the majority of scholarship athletes. Not just the few who are delusional to think they will go pro in one of the major sports.
What needs to be changed is the mindset that they all are good enough to go pro. Someone needs to explain the math to them and explain that the majority are already at the pinnacle of their sports careers.
LINK
So they free room and board, an education, access to an invaluable network of Alumni, and are probably better off than (to be fair) 60% of graduates. They are getting paid and are paid better than the majority of students and that compensation lasts at a minimum 10 additional years, because they don't have loans to pay off.
The real issue is that the players do not take full advantage of what they are offered. The ones that fail to use the teaching, tutoring, help and every other option afforded to athletes are making a case to tear down a system that actually is extremely beneficial to the majority of scholarship athletes. Not just the few who are delusional to think they will go pro in one of the major sports.
What needs to be changed is the mindset that they all are good enough to go pro. Someone needs to explain the math to them and explain that the majority are already at the pinnacle of their sports careers.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 2:06 pm to jondavid11
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What happens to the player the rest of the week when the Saturday night lights go out.
He goes to a university for free, has free housing, and goes to practice where he received training for a possible career that would earn him mullions of dollars.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 2:22 pm to jondavid11
I assure you HE wasn't a workhorse. If big brother wasn't throwing him the ball he hardly made an effort to catch the damn thing. That's why he went from freshman all everything to backup at Valdosta State....
Posted on 12/10/15 at 2:52 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Brooty?
Abram Booty
Posted on 12/10/15 at 3:06 pm to jondavid11
Every time the name Abram Booty comes up, I think of a pic which circulated on the LSU internet boards shortly after his playing days for LSU-- he was wearing some kind of see-through mesh shirt. Not enough eye bleach in the world for that pic.
He had such a promising freshman season. After that, he was a head case. Hopefully, he has gotten things together, but after hearing about this project, I somehow don't think so.
He had such a promising freshman season. After that, he was a head case. Hopefully, he has gotten things together, but after hearing about this project, I somehow don't think so.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 4:40 pm to Kracka
Kracka
Are you an "everyone gets a trophy" boy? Amateur athletics is not about parity of reward. It is about accomplishing goals and those that do it better get all of the things already laid out in other replies. A decent stipend is all that is needed.
I rarely watch pro football sickened by the showoff little boys wanting more for their petty assclown shite they pull on the field. There are a small minority that act with any level of class. Now I would have to watch it on a collegiate field and know my money is paying for it...keep it!
If it were me, every athlete that competes in NCAA, if playing proball post college would repay every last cent of food, housing, education, et.al., while attending. Smoke that.
PS: Merry Christmas!
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I love how the people who are against college athletes getting paid or say they get all this stuff for free, fail to acknowledge the disparity in money made on their backs as opposed to what they actually get out of it.
Are you an "everyone gets a trophy" boy? Amateur athletics is not about parity of reward. It is about accomplishing goals and those that do it better get all of the things already laid out in other replies. A decent stipend is all that is needed.
I rarely watch pro football sickened by the showoff little boys wanting more for their petty assclown shite they pull on the field. There are a small minority that act with any level of class. Now I would have to watch it on a collegiate field and know my money is paying for it...keep it!
If it were me, every athlete that competes in NCAA, if playing proball post college would repay every last cent of food, housing, education, et.al., while attending. Smoke that.
PS: Merry Christmas!
Posted on 12/10/15 at 4:52 pm to jondavid11
Come on now... You know how these things "work". The "star athletes" are getting theirs.
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