re: "3-4 losses/year doesn't cut it at LSU"

I think that losing at least 3 games EVERY year is not good enough. Because if that's the case, there's gonna be seasons where you fall back a bit and lose 5.

But if you have 3-loss seasons that occur but aren't the norm, that's okay. Because if you average 2 losses per season, eventually you'll out it together and lose 1 or none and compete for a trophy.

It's not so much the fact that we're losing 3-5 games a year now, it's HOW we're losing them. We should have won every single game that we lost this year. We lost them because of poor preparation and stupid mistakes. THAT'S why everyone's pissed.

Three or four losses are okay if you are willing to accept mediocre coaching. We should be a national contender EVERY YEAR.

7-8 in the SEC.

The manner in which we have lost is the issue, not the numbers of L's. I, from my chair, have diagnosed Les' offense this year....seriously.

The most basic of college coaches can sure as hell do it as well......there is a reason mediocre teams hang on.

My main issue is the lack of QB development. With proper coaching JJ should be way ahead of where he is now.

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It's not so much the fact that we're losing 3-5 games a year now, it's HOW we're losing them. We should have won every single game that we lost this year. We lost them because of poor preparation and stupid mistakes. THAT'S why everyone's pissed.

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Come on... Florida and Bama were legitimate losses. We really shouldn't even have had a chance to win the Ole Miss game. They outplayed us too. We were overmatched in all three games and nearly won all of them.

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We lost them because of poor preparation and stupid mistakes

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Partially right. Need to add a sophmore quarterback did not help. JJ will be great, he just has had a lot thrown on him at an early age.

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In the 35 seasons before Miles became head coach (starting in 1970), five ended with fewer than 3 losses (1972, 1985, 1987, 1996, 2003).

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And now there have been three in Miles' tenure.

I'll take this a little further, counting the number of two-loss or better seasons and overall number of seasons.

1972: McClendon (1/18)
1985: Arnsparger (1/3)
1987: Archer (1/4)
1996: DiNardo (1/5)
2003: Saban (1/5)
2005: Miles
2006: Miles
2007: Miles (3/5)

On a related note, Steve Spurrier had two or fewer losses in 7 of 12 seasons at Florida.

Coming into this season, Mack Brown had 5 of 11.

In Bobby Bowden's first 11 seasons at FSU, he had 3 seasons of two or fewer losses. Then he went on a 14-year run of two or fewer losses.

Larry Coker was 3/6 in this "two or fewer" category.

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IMO, Miles is approaching a crossroads and next year will be the turning point. In a year when key positions leave Florida and Ole Miss, and LSU brings some experience to the table, does LSU get back to the 2005-2007 type results, or are we a 2nd tier SEC team again? I think next year determines if Miles becomes LSU's Mack Brown or LSU's Larry Coker.