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re: 2,897 yards 18TD 10INT- Would you take it?
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:20 am to dbbuilder79
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:20 am to dbbuilder79
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2013 was one of the greatest offensive outings for the tigers and it was just good enough to finish in the top 25 for total offense for that season.
How many times will i have to explain this for the board?
The only reason our totals were low in 2013 was because of our scheme. We dont run a HUNH like some teams. In 2013 we were 11th in the country in yards per play BUT we were 105th in plays ran so it skewed our totals.
Using totals as a measurement for a team's success is just dumb because totals are skewed by TOP (defense)and plays ran (offense).
Yards per play and points per play are considered PURE stats because they arent skewed by other stats.
2013 LSU offense was elite.
11th in the country in yards per play
9th in the countrh in points per play
We uses the entire play clock trying to shorten the game and dont run a hurry up no huddle
This post was edited on 2/8/16 at 8:24 am
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Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:03 am to Lsuhoohoo
With the way Defenses are stacking the lines, if we just started adding in pass plays that really take advantage of that aggressive play we will be fine.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:10 am to Lsuhoohoo
If it's based on the 12 regular season games I can live with the yardage and TD's. Not enamoured with the 10 interceptions.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:18 am to Lsuhoohoo
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. A competent QB should at a minimum complete 15 passes a game!
Tell that to Peyton Manning.
Why on earth are you trying to use a single players stay line to preside success.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:24 am to LSUNV
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Harris can just consistantly move the chains this year we will be ok
This guy gets it.
Harris' "best" game statistically was perhaps his worst, as we were never really in that game. He needs to get better, I don't know what it's going to look like on the stat sheet, but it needs to look better in the field. He's got it in him, he needs to turn the corner.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:28 am to dbbuilder79
quote:I think you confuse National rank with powerhouse and many of the teams that litter the top 20 offense rank are not on level with LSU, nor face the defenses LSU does.
LSU has never been an offensive powerhouse consistently.
Case in point how in the world can an "awful" #39 LSU offense outscore #2 TTU and #9 WKU by nearly 30pts each?
I'll add LSU style of keepaway offense isn't conducive to top 20 ypg numbers.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:33 am to Lsuhoohoo
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and the coaches have work to do in developing an offense that no longer lends itself to predictability. They flat out have to design better plays and situational playcalling
ok, but when a wr is wide open and the qb overthrows him by 15 yards you can't call that play unpredictable. my point is that many of our plays were not predictable but due to poor execution didn't work. without question it is desirable to expand the play book and "bust up" that damn 8 or 9 in the box so we can run the football better and move the chains via the air. it is not all about predictability; teams DARE us to move the ball thru the air and we struggle mightily to do so.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 12:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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11th in the country in yards per play
9th in the countrh in points per play
Now these are stats that are good for an argument. All I was trying to get at was you shouldn't try to convince people of how great an LSU single season could be by using past LSU seasons and stats.
And for the record, I would take a 2013 looking offense over a HUNH any day
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:17 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Using facts and figures is fine, when you don't omit certain facts. Harris suffered a severe injury in the first half against 'Bama and played out the string with said injury which has now been corrected with surgery. He was often inconsistent prior to the injury, however his numbers dropped dramatically after the injury. Hopefully we'll see much improved accuracy this spring. 
Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:03 pm to dbbuilder79
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Now these are stats that are good for an argument. All I was trying to get at was you shouldn't try to convince people of how great an LSU single season could be by using past LSU seasons and stats.
Yes you can. Since 1970, no sec program has sent more qb to the nfl,than lsu.
Having a season where you threw for th 4th most yards ever at a top 10 alltime program is always a good season.
With the running game we have, 2800 18ts- 10 ints,and 60 % compl is more than enough to win a title.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:25 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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2,897 yards 18TD 10INT- Would you take it? by Lsuhoohoo
We can do a lot better than that and should expect to do better. I'm sure Cam, Miles, Harris, the recievers and the whole offense are going into the season with higher expectations. We have an experienced and improving QB, experienced quality recievers, great run game and good o-line. We shouldn't go into the season setting the bar so low and I'm sure the team has higher expectations than that. This team has the ability to win a championship and I believe that is their goal. Really I think it would be stupid to have such low expectations for this team.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Having a season where you threw for th 4th most yards ever at a top 10 alltime program is always a good season.
Good thing we have such an illustrious history throwing the football
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:55 am to nugget
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Good thing we have such an illustrious history throwing the football
Since 1970 no sec program has sent more qbs to the nfl than lsu. You posters on here act like throwing for 2800 yards in the sec is done by every pther program, every year.
10 of the 14 sec programs this year didnt throw for 2300 yards.
2800 yards is more than enough to win a title if the yards are achieved efficiently.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:03 pm to boxcar willie
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We shouldn't go into the season setting the bar so low
Holy shite.
Bama is a top 5 alltime program and the best program in SEC history.
2900 yards would be the 5th best passing season in bama history.
18tds would be the 6th most passing tds in alabama history.
This board has not fricking clue about the history of cfb.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:56 pm to Jmorr0011
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Mauck threw 28 TD in 2003.
2825 yards
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Flynn threw 21 TD in 2007
2407 yards
Posted on 2/9/16 at 4:27 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Holy shite.
in some ways I have to agree with you. Denver only got 145 yds passing and 90 rushing in super bowl and won easily. I think we can average similar numbers (145/90) and if we have a dominate defense similar to denver, which is plausible considering the depth we have returning, win it all. So I see the point you are making. A good offense is really not necessary and can be a hinderance to our goals.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 4:51 pm to boxcar willie
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So I see the point you are making. A good offense is really not necessary and can be a hinderance to our goals.
Im saying 2800 yards passing in the sec isnt even close to a bad passing season and 18 passing tds isnt a shite amount of passing tds. We know this because the entire combined football history of bama and lsu have produced 10 seasons where a player threw for more than 2800 and 10 seasons were a qb threw more than 18 tds. Stop acting like 2800 yards passing and 18 tds is some bottom of the barrel number where our offense has failed if we get to those numbers.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 4:53 pm to Lsuhoohoo
i think we can do better
i'll consider 20 td passing and 7 ints
i'll consider 20 td passing and 7 ints
Posted on 2/9/16 at 5:28 pm to Spankum
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as long as we have the all-star stable of running backs that we currently have, I don't think we will see much more than a minimal passing game
Which punctuates just how bad the offensive philosophy of what LSU uses is.
You have 2 stud RB's. We know the guys behind them are good but at the end of the day LSU has 2 all star caliber RB's. LSU has an endless amount of All Star caliber WR's on the roster and they are hardly used. It would stand to reason that with all the freaks LSU has on Offense that it would be smartest to put both Guice & Fournette in the backfield and have 3 WR's. Then either Guice or Fournette and then 4 freak athletes. With all that LSU has on the roster talent wise they should predominantly be an 11, 20 and 10 personnel team in regards to offense. If they continue to (and they will) line up in 12,21,32 personnel groups then all that talent is just being wasted and not utilized. The amount of talent that LSU has year in and year out at the Receiver position on it's roster is just an embarrassment of riches and it goes grossly un utilized year after year.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 5:40 pm to MarioBrothers
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The amount of talent that LSU has year in and year out at the Receiver position on it's roster is just an embarrassment of riches and it goes grossly un utilized year after year.
Agreed, and WR's have always been a factor in how high our recruiting rankings are. LSU recruits the exterior as well as anyone, just like Bama the interior. But, we have not had the exterior be the focal point on offense since 2008, outside of 2013. It is a huge reason for not "playing to our potential"...a lot of our potential is an afterthought. I know our WR's have gotten some blame for dropped passes, but I think the argument can be made that LSU's passing game has suffered in the recent past not because they don't trust the QBs, its that they don't trust their WR's. Clearly, its a mixture of both, but it is an interesting point nonetheless that WR involvement has been so scarce, almost to the point of being strictly a safety valve.
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