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2013 or 2016 offense
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:48 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:48 am
Which offense was more talented? I would take this year's group as I think it's deeper at RB and WR. Bharris obviously isn't Mettenberger but I think if he was utilized more to fit his skill set then he could be every bit of productive with a heisman hopeful RB and a bevy of talented receivers.
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:52 am to Corporal Beavis
2006
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:08 am to Corporal Beavis
I'll take Mett, OBJ, Jarvis, and Jeremy Hill over almost any group in LSU history.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:09 am to Paul Allen
quote:
2006
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:10 am to TheCaterpillar
We still don't have a QB on Mett's level. So 2013 easy. LF can't do this by himself.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:11 am to Corporal Beavis
quote:
2013 or 2016 offense
quote:
Which offense was more talented?
HOW LONG WAS I ASLEEP?!
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:16 am to Corporal Beavis
2013 > 2016
Mett > Harris
Jarvis-Odell-J.Wright > Dural-Dupre-Johnson-etc.
LF7 & Guice > J. Hill
The difference maker being at QB. This isn't to take away from Harris or anyone else mentioned, this is just a testament to how much talent we have
Mett > Harris
Jarvis-Odell-J.Wright > Dural-Dupre-Johnson-etc.
LF7 & Guice > J. Hill
The difference maker being at QB. This isn't to take away from Harris or anyone else mentioned, this is just a testament to how much talent we have
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 10:17 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:16 am to Paul Allen
quote:
2006
Incredible group, but go position by position and I'm taking 2013.
Russell > Mett
OBJ > Bowe (close though)
Jarvis > Buster
Hill > Scott/Hester/Keiland (for that year at least)
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:30 am to TheCaterpillar
We also had Alfred Blue, Terrence Magee, & Hilliard at RB in 2013. Pretty deep.
As far as RB goes, I think 2016 is our best group. Fournette, Guice, & Williams is elite. Williams would start for a bunch of teams and he can barely get on the field here, b/c he's stuck behind a couple of high draft picks.
Williams will probably pull an Alfred Blue and get drafted somewhere between rounds 5-7 and have a decent NFL career.
As far as RB goes, I think 2016 is our best group. Fournette, Guice, & Williams is elite. Williams would start for a bunch of teams and he can barely get on the field here, b/c he's stuck behind a couple of high draft picks.
Williams will probably pull an Alfred Blue and get drafted somewhere between rounds 5-7 and have a decent NFL career.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 10:48 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:35 am to GMoney2600
quote:
We also had Alfred Blue, Terrence Magee, & Hilliard at RB in 2013. Pretty deep.
As far as RB goes, I think 2016 is our best group. Fournette, Guice, & Williams is elite.
Agreed on all points.
LF/Guice/Williams/Brossette/Ducre is the best group since Faulk/Collins/Mealey
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:35 am to GMoney2600
How about OL play? '06>>'13
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:36 am to JBeam
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How about OL play? '06>>'13
For sure.
I guess I was focusing on the skills spots.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:42 am to Corporal Beavis
quote:Did I fall asleep and miss 2016?
2013 or 2016 offense
Which offense was more talented?
I hope I'll make that determination no sooner than January 2017.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:49 am to TheCaterpillar
didn't the 06 team have serious problems running the ball for the first 8 games of so?
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:51 am to Mayhawman
I asked about talented, not productive. 2013 production will be very hard to meet considering our D was arse that year which led to a bunch of shootouts.
Hill was talented but was 2nd rounder. LF is a near lock for top 10 and wouldn't be surprised if Guice goes in the top 3 rounds when he goe's pro.
Malachi has all the potential OBJ does. He's probably gonna be a 1st rounder. OBJ was not good in 2012, bit as good as malachi last year IMO. Landry mayve been the best player of that whole group but we didn't have the depth of WR in 2013 like this year. Kadron Boone and Wright were good but nothin but special teams in Nfl. Dural, Johnson, Ferguson all have NFL potential. Not to mention Chark and some freshman.
Met is clearly better than Harris but it's not a stretch to say Harris is nearly or just as talented. His deep ball is beautiful, disregarding accuracy
Hill was talented but was 2nd rounder. LF is a near lock for top 10 and wouldn't be surprised if Guice goes in the top 3 rounds when he goe's pro.
Malachi has all the potential OBJ does. He's probably gonna be a 1st rounder. OBJ was not good in 2012, bit as good as malachi last year IMO. Landry mayve been the best player of that whole group but we didn't have the depth of WR in 2013 like this year. Kadron Boone and Wright were good but nothin but special teams in Nfl. Dural, Johnson, Ferguson all have NFL potential. Not to mention Chark and some freshman.
Met is clearly better than Harris but it's not a stretch to say Harris is nearly or just as talented. His deep ball is beautiful, disregarding accuracy
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 10:52 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:53 am to SportTiger1
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How about OL play? '06>>'13
I agree with above statement from SportTiger1. 2006 OLine was not good at all. The two games they lost (Auburn and Florida) the run avg was about 2 ypc. But some will argue it was bc of Russell, smh
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:56 am to Corporal Beavis
Yea, Mett was a better overall qb than Harris. The one thing Harris easily has him beat is being able to escape the pocket and run for yardage. Mett was a statue back there.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:56 am to KennabraTiger
Went an looked..
2006 avg 165 YPG rushing.
for comparison, 2015 avg 256 YPG
2006 avg 165 YPG rushing.
for comparison, 2015 avg 256 YPG
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:27 am to Corporal Beavis
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I asked about talented, not productive. 2013 production will be very hard to meet considering our D was arse that year which led to a bunch of shootouts.
God I fricking hate this myth.
They were not good in the UGA game against a QB with more experience than anyone in SEC history basically, but the offense completely shite the bed against Ole Miss and Alabama.
#15 Total Defense
#21 Scoring Defense
#13 Passing Defense
#1 Forced Fumbles
#11 in Interceptions
#21 in TFL
All of those things combined mean we were a pretty damn good defense. Mett threw 3 TERRIBLE interceptions against Ole Miss' 3rd string defense. Against Bama, we fumbled on the goal line on the opening drive which completely killed our momentum and spirit and averaged like 2 YPC in our running game.
ETA:
And those are national rankings. If we do SEC, we're clearly a top 3 defense in the league that year.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 11:37 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:57 am to TheCaterpillar
You forgot our sacks number. The pass rush was not nearly as good as it is for us most years. If we played more prolific offenses with good quarterbacks they would've done well with all the time they had. Calling it arse mayve been a little much but it wasn't nearly as intimidating defense as what we'really used to.
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