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re: 2 calls at second base today....

Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:58 pm to
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:58 pm to
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had his foot on the bag


the homer in me wanted to believe this, but i paused it and admit it could've gone either way.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:00 am to
Maybe the blame would go to the team for not getting more than 3 hits. I know it sounds crazy but we could also give credit to SB
Posted by Thunder Tiger
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:06 am to
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I know it sounds crazy but we could also give credit to SB

Blasphemy!
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:08 am to
I'm too upset to rationally discuss our lack of offense. We are better than we have been showing.

quote:

I know it sounds crazy but we could also give credit to SB


I credit their shortstop for allowing us to get a man to 2nd on routine ground outs...twice. I thought for a second that the third baseman was going to pick up where the SS left off today when he airmailed that throw in the 9th.

I'd also like to thank the right fielder for missing that popup in the 10th that would have sealed our fate.

As good as SB is, they only have themselves to blame for having to play a game 3 tomorrow.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:09 am to
I didn't see it on tv. From my vantage point the umpire hesitated which tells me he was safe but saw his momentum taking him off the bag. The real question is did he come off the bag? I thought he came off the bag based on his reaction as well as the SB players.

If he blocked the bag and/or aided in knocking Snickeris off the bag with the tag I say great play by him. When I played SS and 3rd I tried blocking the bag as much as possible when making tags. Illegal or not everyone tries it.
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:11 am to
hell, i give the SS a ton of credit for being on the field after the collision with arby .. that was sick ...
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:14 am to
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From my vantage point the umpire hesitated which tells me he was safe but saw his momentum taking him off the bag. The real question is did he come off the bag?


TV didn't really help either as you can tell from the many posts about it. Different people watching the same angles couldn't come to a consensus.

I'll say this: IF he was off of the base, then he was off because there was about an eighth inch of dirt between his foot and the base. 90% of the time the ump calls him safe since he was there way before the tag and wasn't obviously off of the base when he was tagged for the second time.

These guys had a hard on for calling people out. I base that off of the retarded check swings that were called strikes. Did you get to see those?
Posted by Thunder Tiger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:15 am to
His toe came off the bag for a frickin' millisecond and the SB 2B saw it and instantly tagged him on that very foot and he was called out. As much as I was disgusted, it was a great heads-up play on his part.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 12:17 am
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:28 am to
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Did you get to see those?


i saw them called consistently
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:29 am to
I saw one of their leftys get called out on a check swing and thought it was a horrible call. I am not a fan of umps. They are so inconsistent with strike zones. And the zones vary from one ump to another. The plays on the base paths are usually more consistent.

My opinion on the play is I wish maneiri would quit putting our runners in motion bc lately the results are usually bad. Now tomorrow he may call some hit and runs that work and look like a genius. That's baseball I guess.
Posted by parrotdr
Cesspool of Rationalization
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:33 am to
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lmao ... as a dentist .. so, when you see him trying to hold those bad boys behind his lip .. do you feel bad for him when he realizes the wont tuck up in there?



Hell yeah...you can see him struggle to keep his lips closed...too much tension on those perioral muscles..

Tense perioral musculature is something you only want to see on the babe you're talking to on Saturday night!
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:38 am to
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i saw them called consistently


Yeah. They were consistently called a strike even though a couple of them were no where near a strike.

I have a problem with that type of officiating. I consider it lazy to just call a check swing a strike no matter what actually happened. It's consistent...ly bad officiating.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:42 am to
These thread got a little out of hand imo

Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:44 am to
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My opinion on the play is I wish maneiri would quit putting our runners in motion bc lately the results are usually bad. Now tomorrow he may call some hit and runs that work and look like a genius. That's baseball I guess.
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I don't mind us running the bases. Our aggressive baserunning helped against Oregon State (except for the retarded double steal). I still think a signal taking the double steal off was missed. I don't think Paul would call a double steal in that situation.

It's a basic part of baseball. You attempt steal and are safe then you are a genius. You attempt to steal and get caught and every single know-it-all in the seats "saw it coming".



BTW: This was just teased on ESPNU. "Why there is controversy coming out of Baton Rouge."


The controversy was starting Gausman in the 1st game and then starting him in the 2nd game.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 1:27 am
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:45 am to
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Tense perioral musculature is something you only want to see on the babe you're talking to on Saturday night!


Dental dick jokes! You don't see that often.
Posted by Templars
Member since Oct 2005
2970 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 1:19 am to
I think the play where LSU was called out at 2nd after the walk, has to be one of the weirdest plays I've ever seen.

That it later was ruled a pick off in itself, shows the umpires should have been A HELL OF A LOT MORE VOCAL that a walk had been issued. That play still doesn't shake out correctly to me.

One of the astute commentators thanked his experience with Strat-o-matic baseball in helping him correctly predict the official scoring. Who was that guy - thought he was great throughout the telecast.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 3:55 am to
I just watched the replay of the game. ESPN interviewed PM right after that botched steal. PM said that somebody has to tell the runner that it was a walk.

So add PM to the list of people who believe that the HP umpire should have done a better job.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 3:59 am to
Explain what happened?
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:05 am to
Snikeris was on 1st base. The batter had a full count. Snikeris attempts a steal. The pitch is called ball four except there was no clear visual or audible call so Snik just keeps running and slides into 2nd. He beats the throw but in the process overslides the base when he is tagged again. He is called out.

The official scoring had it as a stolen base and a pickoff.

It cost LSU a run as Snik would have eventually made it to 3rd base where an infield groundball to 2nd would have scored him.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 4:07 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:35 am to
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So add PM to the list of people who believe that the HP umpire should have done a better job.




Had the SB catcher thrown that ball into the gap allowing Snickeris to reach 3rd would CPM or any fans be complaining?

CPM also said in the paper it was the right call.

Also the official scoring is wrong if they credited Snickeris with a steal.
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