re: 1989 Football revisited

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clamdip

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Remember the Sports Illustrated article,"Out of Their League" chronicling LSU's decline under Archer but maybe came out Curly's first season?
I remember it describing a country club atmosphere with physically inferior players under Archer. Hence the, "put your earrings in a box" crap by Curly. From what I remember LSU went from country club under Archer to "Khmer Rouge" under Hallman.

fricking Arnsbarger screwed us because of him recommending Archer knowing he was going to get he UF job and was going to fire Hall and hire Spurrier.

Archer didn't adjust to the prop 48 issues like other SEC coaches specifically Spurrier and Dooley to a lesser extent.Bama and Auburn cheated so bad during those years I pretty much exclude anything they did including the 1992 Bama team. The NCAA caught them and should have stripped that team of the title but the tenicality was proving the issue happened in 1992. I'm old and don't remember the details from all of that mess.

Curley staying at Southern Miss would have been the best thing for him and LSU. He won there including beating Bama twice in 4 years. Go look at their schedule and you will see that they played a lot of SEC schools sometimes 2 (and maybe 3?) a year so he beat SEC schools.
Our players were out of control academically and off the field during Archers tenure. That's why they wanted a disciplinarian. The problem was those players on the team that were there when he arrived, we're not committed to follow the process after Archer gave them free reigns at the school. There was ZERO accountability and respect with Archer. So when Hallman arrived he was fighting a culture that DGAF.

His Southern Miss team was loaded. Personally know players that started for him during Favres time and beyond and all states that the LSU job was too big for him. Meaning he had control of his recruits and they listened to him. That's a fact directly from his former players that I know personally.

They weren't a bad team. That team got off on the wrong foot, then suffered a number of key injuries, and just never jelled into a cohesive unit.

Much like the 1998 team, but even more disappointing.

Please tell me you don't really believe Arnsparger took the Florida AD job and then would wait three seasons to run Galen Hall off and then hire Spurrier as some master plan?

Some of you live in Fantasy Land.

Tom Hodson had his best year and was 1st Team All SEC for the 4th time. Difficult to believe a QB can be this good and the record is 4-7.

Tom Hodson 1989 LSU 11 Games
183/317 57.7%
2,655 Yards 8.4 Yds Per Pass
22 TD's 12 Int's 143.4 Rating

You are crazy.You honestly think that in 1986 when Alabama,Southern California and Texas all passed over Spurrier,LSU not only didn't hire Spurrier---who had never been a college HC,but they were tricked by Arnsparger? Ol' Bill knew in three years he'd run off Galen Hall and hire Spurrier?

True lunacy.Arnsparger had to be drug kicking and screaming into hiring Spurrier.He wanted Gary Darnell to be full head coach.He didn't have some secret three year plan to sabotage LSU.

Amazing.

Steve Spurrier was a a fantastic OC and Archer was the DC at LSU. Wait. Who was REALLY the DC? The DC for the freaking 72 dolphins FROM MIAMI SPURRIER'S HOME TOWN. Who was a fantastic OC at Duke? the HC for the USFL Tampa Bay Bandits until 85 when they folded? He had MORE EXPERIENCE AND WAS. Proven winner. Archer had done absolutely NOTHING. Spurrier was the hottest coach when that happened. What exactly happened in 85/86 when Arnsbarger who was OUR REIGNING HC, interviewed in the middle of the season for the UF AD job. In the mean time Spurrier was available to hire, but wasn't going to wait around for the Arnsbarger move to UF so he signed that deal with Duke as their HC. UF had that deal with Hall. There was a shite ton of issues and not just the normal conspiracy theory crap with a whole bunch of proof to substantiate it.

The students had a whole bunch of choice words for him as his sorry arse was packing for UF.
All I cat is Miami of fricking Ohio!

There is more to the Archer story than you guys let on and it had everything to do with tBOS and Bob Broadhead.

Broadhead was canned in November of 1986 and left a void when it came to leadership inside of the Athletic Department and then later on in 1986 Arnsparger announced he was resigning to become AD at FL. This put everything into a tailspin. There were two factions on the Board at the time. One wanted to bring in someone from the outside. This bunch actually was willing to go with Spurrier and had an offer to present to him. en things started to fall apart.....the team got involved and basically said that they would not play for anyone but Archer and that some were more than willing to transfer. Archer was well liked particularly on the defense and the defense was stacked going into the 1987 season even with the departures of Michael Brooks and Roland Barbay, et al

The Board decided that the upside to Archer was greater than the downside although there were some like Cusimano who had their reservations but the y figured that with the amassed talent from the Arnsparger and even Stovall years that they could weather it and Archer could grow into the role . Actually for the first two years Archer seemed to be a very good pick. LSU finished Top 5 after the 1987 season and won a share of the SEC in 1988.

I know it to be fact because I worked at the time for a Board member and was there as the decisions were being made. There was a lot of politics being played at the time inside of LSU...the Board could not care less about the NCAA eavesdropping, but there were some on the board who were really pissed that he had such a cozy relationship with Doug Manship of the Advocate . This person DID NOT want Broadhead to resign, but he was in the minority. He especially did not want Braodhead resigning before Christmas.....the Chancellor, Jim Wharton was in the camp that wanted Broadhead gone and forced him out over the Manship stuff.

Arnsparger saw the level of politics at LSU and wanted no part of it and jumped at the Florida gig.

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Don't care, beat Ole Miss

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Possibly true, but Archer was still retained for the 90 season, but by that time he had lost control of the team.