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re: The coaching staff absolutely deserves criticism for this recruiting season
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:33 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:33 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Some of them had their own reasons I'm sure
...and yet you guys keep saying it's the coaches fault for guys going elsewhere for other reasons than football.
So what could have the coaches done to have Collins go to LSU?
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Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:34 pm to Prominentwon
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exactly. in-state fish at that
Pay the GF?
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:35 pm to DBG
quote:frick you.
DoucheBaG
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:35 pm to That LSU Guy
I'm a old guy and I have learned through time that having a lot of negative people in our fan base really helps our program. I guess it is just like in your job, marriage or life in general being negative every chance you get always makes everything better and it makes everyone else want to join in on your great time.If you do something a different way it will always worked out better.(loser creed) Shut up and get back to work.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it wasn't a horrible class, but it wasn't amazing. and ignoring teh team rankings, our poor showing in LA is worrisome. mismanaging miller's situation is worrisome
Team ranking is 6 on scout.
Lsu looks like they will be attacking defensive tackle needs out of state next year in Texas pretty hard.
This was a unique situation because we have stockpiled depth and needs weren't as needed this class. What I mean is that lsu addressed a position of need in linebackers more than any other and could afford to.
Next season, they will have to address defensive tackles. They also need some taller receivers.
The miller situation was unfortunate but shite like that happens. It was a numbers crunch and we were unaware that Kiel was switching.
Numbers will catch up to you. Especially in top programs where you have to force attrition. Just look at Alabama. They have to empty the coffers every year to squeeze their classes in.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:37 pm to HappyTigerDay
Preseason #1 yes. Top 5 next year. Let's wait and see.
The truth is losing your in state top players is a concern. This class could have been a top 5 but they let it get away.
If we want to compete with Bama we better be a top 5-10 every year.
So far this year is # 15. We filled some needs and have enough talent to be very good next season. The question is what's beyond that?
The truth is losing your in state top players is a concern. This class could have been a top 5 but they let it get away.
If we want to compete with Bama we better be a top 5-10 every year.
So far this year is # 15. We filled some needs and have enough talent to be very good next season. The question is what's beyond that?
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:37 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:Opinions =/= truth. Get a grip.
You will be hounded relentlessly for stating the truth on this board.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm worried about CB, WR, and pass-rushing DE looking forward (and by that i mean the 2013 season)
Somewhat disagree.
LSU looks really healthy at CB and WR looking forward.
Only real positions of concern moving forward are DL and QB.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what about the needs at DT
Fair enough.
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a pass-rushing DE?
Not a massive need, IMO. We still have Rasco in the wings. We still have Maclin.
AND we signed Danielle Hunter, who pretty much everyone unanimously agrees, has as much raw potential as anyone.
QB is a project, but not a desperate need IMO. Not at this point. Now, if we fail next year, that's messing up.
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we failed to get a big WR
Well, Avery, Dural and Holmes are all listed around 6'2. Those are generally considered "big WRs", but yeah, we didn't get a 6'4-6'6 guy.
There's a tricky line to walk. Criticize them for losing out on Collins and co. Kiel, tough... seems they did all they could. Same with Super Mario.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:40 pm to DBG
I think there are several factors that have hurt this class...even though I believe it's a great class that addresses big needs...mainly LB. one factor was Landon Collins girlfriend. Another was BG leaving. Another was the horrifically stubborn, conservative offensive performance in the NC game (costing us maybe Kiel and Patterson). Another was that Duvall fit perfectly into Bamas system and not so much ours. And with Davis..maybe we had too many very good LBs already on board in this class.
Sometimes things don't fall just perfectly..but this class is no pushover. It's legit.
Sometimes things don't fall just perfectly..but this class is no pushover. It's legit.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:42 pm to Cydewayz
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I rarely post here, but when does a team with a top 15 class deserves criticism
On the heels of a year of non stop LSU pub., national awards, SEC championship....it is a poor job to not capitalize on this season in a better fashion.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:42 pm to Prominentwon
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...and yet you guys keep saying it's the coaches fault for guys going elsewhere for other reasons than football.
So what could have the coaches done to have Collins go to LSU?
Are you really contending that there is no course of action that any coach could ave taken at any time to lure Landon Collins to his home state insitution? Really? Basically, then, you would agree that Collins was somehow fated to go to Bama and that no human intervention could have possible altered that predetermined outcome? Really? Fatalistic nonsense.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:43 pm to Prominentwon
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Pay the GF?
we batted like 33% or worst in the top LA recruits. that's worrisome. LA is a small state and we can't afford many years of that kind of recruiting performance. i'm not even that worried about collins, it's the others moreso
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:45 pm to LSUlunatic
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LSU looks really healthy at CB and WR looking forward.
we lack a big WR and all WRs not named randle were beaten out by a true frosh. that's an indictment of the talent, imho
plus, boone transferred
CB is just a big question mark. we may have good CBs, or we may not. we won't know until 2013
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Boone didn't transfer
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:48 pm to tigerfoot
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On the heels of a year of non stop LSU pub., national awards, SEC championship....it is a poor job to not capitalize on this season in a better fashion.
I understand that, but the national awards receipents were 3 star "recruits"... So how can you state it was a poor job, when our staff have proved they know what their doing?
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:52 pm to Cydewayz
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but the national awards receipents were 3 star "recruits"... So how can you state it was a poor job, when our staff have proved they know what their doing?
They proved they highly desired Collins, Kiel,Davis, etc...and didn't get them.
They were assessed by the coaching staff as well, and we struck out, with a lot of momentum.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:53 pm to The312
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Are you really contending that there is no course of action that any coach could ave taken at any time to lure Landon Collins to his home state insitution? Really? Basically, then, you would agree that Collins was somehow fated to go to Bama and that no human intervention could have possible altered that predetermined outcome? Really? Fatalistic nonsense.
Ok, so tell me, IYO, what the coaches should have done to ensure that Collins goes to LSU.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 12:59 pm to tigerfoot
Understandable, but what team doesn't want those players? That doesn't verify we did a poor job. Did we strike out with those players? Yes; however, our coaching staff and recruiting staff have justify even when we don't get the 5-star players, they still know what they doing. i.e. Tyrann Mathieu, Morris Claiborne, and I can go on and on.
Posted on 2/1/12 at 1:06 pm to Cydewayz
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Understandable, but what team doesn't want those players?
I would hope we don't resort to getting recruits where there is no competition fr their commitment
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