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LSU vs Florida: Utilization of Skill Players?
Posted on 1/15/09 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 1/15/09 at 4:53 pm
Does LSU have a problem with getting playmakers lost in the shuffle because of the depth? I honestly think LSU has more playmakers than Florida, just no Harvin or Tebow.
I would bank on Debose being an immediate impact at UF, but I'm not sure he would at LSU. I know Shep will be immediate, but he is on another level and the QB position is a good situation for him.
Not sure what I'm trying to say, just merely thinking out loud.
I would bank on Debose being an immediate impact at UF, but I'm not sure he would at LSU. I know Shep will be immediate, but he is on another level and the QB position is a good situation for him.
Not sure what I'm trying to say, just merely thinking out loud.
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Posted on 1/15/09 at 4:55 pm to Dodd
Posted on 1/15/09 at 4:57 pm to MoreOrLes
Seems like that to me as well. Or we are just giving some of our players too much credit equating them to some of Florida's players... 
Posted on 1/15/09 at 4:57 pm to Dodd
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Not sure what I'm trying to say, just merely thinking out loud.
I get what you're saying and I agree.
I started a thread a while back asking whether or not our offense was creative enough to use RS in the most effective way and was flamed for it but i still wonder.
Posted on 1/15/09 at 4:57 pm to Dodd
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just no Harvin or Tebow.
That's a pretty HUGE frickin' "just no"!!!!
Posted on 1/15/09 at 4:58 pm to Dodd
I know what you're saying, and I agree because Florida just makes me wonder sometimes if we're using all of our play makers, but at the same time, I don't know if there are some outside reasons as to why we don't use some of them...eh..there's a lot to it I guess.
This post was edited on 1/15/09 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 1/15/09 at 4:58 pm to Dodd
youre talking about how guys like harvin, rainey, demps, ect. are turned into explosive playmakers
while guys like keiland williams, trindon holliday, and terrence toliver dont do much
while guys like keiland williams, trindon holliday, and terrence toliver dont do much
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:00 pm to MoreOrLes
We don't have more playmakers than Florida. They have much more speed. As Beckwith put it after the Florida game..........We have Trindan Holliday. Florida has 5 or 6 Trindan Hollidays.
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:01 pm to Dodd
i honestly thought that players like John Williams T. Tolliver or R.j. Jackson would have made a bigger impact by now..don't know it's that's due to lack of talent development by the coaches or maybe they just don't have IT yet or at all
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:02 pm to ashank3
a guy like john williams would probably be in the mix at uf
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:02 pm to ashank3
IMO: Tolliver will be making an impact next year
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:05 pm to JBreaz10
quote:way to go out on a limb
IMO: Tolliver will be making an impact next year
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:05 pm to DBG
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youre talking about how guys like harvin, rainey, demps, ect. are turned into explosive playmakers
while guys like keiland williams, trindon holliday, and terrence toliver dont do much
exactly...and add CJ and even Murphy. RM may get a lot of heat, but I fully believe he would be more effective at UF. How in the hell was JW under the radar so much this season? Depth is the only answer I can come up with.
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:10 pm to Dodd
quote:This is true as well as the fact that we didn't have stable quarterback play for most of the season. If the quarterback can't get the ball the to play makers, then they can't make a play.
Depth
I'm confident that this problem will be fixed before the start of next season.
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:14 pm to Dodd
quote:i think its hard to make your argument b/c its not like there were many playmakers on the field last year. its a stretch to say all the good playmakers were on the sideline not playing, yet the starters beat them out for PT.
youre talking about how guys like harvin, rainey, demps, ect. are turned into explosive playmakers
while guys like keiland williams, trindon holliday, and terrence toliver dont do much
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exactly...and add CJ and even Murphy. RM may get a lot of heat, but I fully believe he would be more effective at UF. How in the hell was JW under the radar so much this season? Depth is the only answer I can come up with.
i kinda understand what you are getting at, but its a tough sell. you have a theory with alot of variables and inconsistancy. i prefer to just believe what my eyes see: playmakers all over ben hill griffin, less at death valley
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:18 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
you may be absolutely correct.
And to the other poster reasoning that QB play was a reason, what about the NC season? LSU had a very stable offense, but remained conservative even with the speed on the bench
And to the other poster reasoning that QB play was a reason, what about the NC season? LSU had a very stable offense, but remained conservative even with the speed on the bench
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:21 pm to Dodd
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I would bank on Debose being an immediate impact at UF, but I'm not sure he would at LSU. I know Shep will be immediate, but he is on another level and the QB position is a good situation for him.
Define immediate impact for Debose.
Also, explain how Shepard is on a different level than Debose? I would say they are in the same ballpark.
LSU has had very solid production out of its top WRs over the past several years. And, it's fair to say that LSU's WRs have been better utilized than florida's in the passing game.
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:23 pm to Dodd
quote:huge factor. you cant argue how much that handcuffed the entire offense last year.
QB
with the exception of the BCSCG against ohio st, id say we played awful conservative on offense: going with hester who was solid yet unspectacular
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:25 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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you cant argue how much that handcuffed the entire offense last year.
So "Handcuffed" is the cool new intergeek word for "Most points ever scored by an LSU football team"?
Posted on 1/15/09 at 5:27 pm to moneyg
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Also, explain how Shepard is on a different level than Debose? I would say they are in the same ballpark.
Shep being the QB or WR threat, and then there is the passing. maybe a poor choice of words
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