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re: LSU Softball Recruiting 2016! Top Ten Recruiting Class!
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:04 pm to Keyboard Warrior
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:04 pm to Keyboard Warrior
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Better than Hemphill?
Different, Dawson is much more dangerous and can beat you and dominate the game in more ways.
I have seen both play quite a few games and they happen to be teammates on the Voodoo so that will be fun to watch this summer. First off, both players are, in my opinion, two of the elite 2016 recruits in the country. This is not written to discount the potential of either player. LSU should have done everything within power to sign both.
Hemphill is a big time hitter that projects as a 20+ HR type player. She is a big time power bat. Other than that, she doesn't have a big time tool that can take over a game.
Dawson is so explosive and athletic she can dominate in multiple ways. She is a plus defender with exceptional range and can potentially hit 7-10 HR's and could end up with 35 extra base hits while stealing 35 to 40 bags. She will score on just about anything from second base and will score from first on any extra base hit. Her elite speed puts so much pressure on the defense that she is a much tougher out and a nightmare to face. If you pitch around her its a double and immediate scoring threat. She is an advanced hitter that struck out 3 or 4 times in 130 at bats this season.
Until you see this girl run you cannot grasp the impact she can have on a game. When former LSU All Americans and All SEC players say she is the fastest player and best athlete they have ever seen on the field that tells me something.
Of course neither player is a guarantee to produce on the SEC level. But the power tool that Hemphill offers is as good as I have ever seen in a high school player and the athletic skill set Dawson brings will be as good and probably better than any player in the country.
An example is the head to head when they played this year. Dawson was 4-5 with 3 triples, 4 runs scored and 4 RBIs. STM's Hemphill was 1-1 with a long, long HR and 3 walks. Parkview Baptist elected to walk Hemphill 3 times (I would have too).
If I had to pick one of the two, I take Dawson. It is a debate that will play out over the next few years at Tiger Park.
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 1:32 pm to paintthecorner
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I was able to watch the Miss Dawson play in the Sulphur tournament. I guess I didn't see what you guys saw. I don't see her playing SS at LSU. With her speed I think she will transition to the OF. Most of the kids Beth is recruiting play SS in HS. This is due to them being the best player on their teams. I would pay more attention to where they play in travel ball, and what level they play. There are exceptions to the rules of course, but the rule is still the rule. The depth is stacking up. It's simply going to be which ladies can perform at the plate. That's going to decide who plays and who rides.
I don't disagree with your thoughts and believe what you say is spot on.
I didn't mean to imply that Dawson would be only a SS candidate. I was saying that compared to the other SS's in this class that I have seen there is simply no comparison in what she can do and what they can do.
From what I have seen there will NOT be a player in the 2016 class that will be:
Faster, more athletic, more versatile, pound for pound stronger or more advanced as a hitter than Nicky Dawson. What position will she play? We can let Beth figure that out but this girl is supremely talented with massive upside.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 4:39 pm to Mulerider
With the players we have coming in, she will likely be in the outfield. With her speed, its too valuable. We already have a lot of great athletes in the infield.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:25 pm to Mulerider
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I don't disagree with your thoughts and believe what you say is spot on.
I didn't mean to imply that Dawson would be only a SS candidate. I was saying that compared to the other SS's in this class that I have seen there is simply no comparison in what she can do and what they can do.
From what I have seen there will NOT be a player in the 2016 class that will be:
Faster, more athletic, more versatile, pound for pound stronger or more advanced as a hitter than Nicky Dawson. What position will she play? We can let Beth figure that out but this girl is supremely talented with massive upside.
All I'm saying is let's not get ahead of ourselves here. When this class arrives, 8 position players or backups from the current roster will have graduated, not to mention any transfers out, or in. Some of the bench girls could make a big jump during the off season. This class has 4 athletes in it that can play multiple positions. They are following a class that has at least 3 elite athletes in it that could have went to variety of big D1 programs to play multiple positions. She might be fast, really fast, but all that means right now is that she is going to pinch run at some point.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:00 pm to paintthecorner
Haha right because on a recruiting message board we are never allowed to get ahead of ourselves!
I don't think anyone that likes the potential of any of these players has predicted "future all american, all sec" etc. Of course it has to play out but this is what makes it fun.
I do whole heartedly agree with the statement that this particular kid will be the best athlete and fastest kid LSU has had in a very long time, maybe ever. It may translate to zero playing time but you have to enjoy being able to start a freshman from scratch with that kind of ability.
I don't think anyone that likes the potential of any of these players has predicted "future all american, all sec" etc. Of course it has to play out but this is what makes it fun.
I do whole heartedly agree with the statement that this particular kid will be the best athlete and fastest kid LSU has had in a very long time, maybe ever. It may translate to zero playing time but you have to enjoy being able to start a freshman from scratch with that kind of ability.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:26 pm to LSUAshlyn
I understand your point. I guess I'm just thinking more towards the possibility of the actual kids reading these things. There will be plenty of pressure on them from day one, no sense in adding more trying to fulfill unknown internet people's expectations of you.
As I said before, I haven't particularly watched her play much, but 2.3 H-1B sounds a bit crazy to me. I was told 2.5 was elite level D1 speed, so 2.3's would be what, Team USA speed?
Looking at the 15 & 16 classes, it looks like the program is going to be in good hands going forward. Lots of speed, power and depth all around.
As I said before, I haven't particularly watched her play much, but 2.3 H-1B sounds a bit crazy to me. I was told 2.5 was elite level D1 speed, so 2.3's would be what, Team USA speed?
Looking at the 15 & 16 classes, it looks like the program is going to be in good hands going forward. Lots of speed, power and depth all around.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:18 am to paintthecorner
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As I said before, I haven't particularly watched her play much, but 2.3 H-1B sounds a bit crazy to me. I was told 2.5 was elite level D1 speed, so 2.3's would be what, Team USA speed?
I agree its all in fun. 2.3? That would be the fastest player ever timed for Team USA and to my knowledge only one player has ever been recorded to dip in to the 2.3's. I didn't see anywhere listed or claimed that this player could run a 2.3. Her high school coach, LSU All-American Ashlee Ducote, said she was a consistent low to mid 2.5 and would dip in to the high 2.4's on a perfect sprint from the box.
Yes, 2.5 is super elite speed and I don't believe any current player in the SEC is that fast and LSU has never had a player that fast. I wish she ran a 2.3 haha but I believe she is a 2.5 type runner.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 7:24 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 3:26 pm to LSUAshlyn
You're right, no one said 2.3 speed. I simply calculated that if a kid can pull off 2.5's and 2.4's as a junior in HS, she should theoretically be able to shave .1 sec off of her time once she arrives at a major program with an elite speed and agility training program and proper nutrition etc. Honestly, I think she is probably 2.8-2.7 now. That is elite speed in any level of the game really.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:06 pm to paintthecorner
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Honestly, I think she is probably 2.8-2.7 now.
No sir (or mam), and this info is not second hand. I have personally timed this player and she is a sub 2.6 every time I have put a stopwatch on her. To note, if Ashlee Ducote says this is the fastest kid she has ever seen that carries more weight than what just about anybody else can say. Ashlee played with one of the most prolific base stealers in LSU history and says this player is faster and its not close.
But there is an old saying that you can't steal first so just because a player has elite speed doesn't mean they can get on base to take advantage of that speed. It will surely be a fun class to watch as has been the case with all of Beth's classes thus far.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 2:01 pm to Keyboard Warrior
division 3a - no competion -
Posted on 5/23/15 at 8:02 am to The West Bank
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division 3a - no competion -
Right, and because there is "no competition" it makes players faster and more athletic, right?
If you know anything about high school softball in LA you would know that Parkview plays arguably the toughest schedule in the state year in year out. All of the good schools in the BR area (Denham, Zachary, Live Oak, Walker, St. Amant, EA, St. Joes) are routinely on the schedule and are often defeated by that little ole 3A school.
Nice post though. Debating on facts is good. Debating with ignorance, not so much.
This post was edited on 5/23/15 at 8:03 am
Posted on 5/23/15 at 7:21 pm to LSUAshlyn
3A has been the deepest class in the state the last 3-5 years IMO.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 8:50 pm to Mulerider
In terms of speed for the class of 2015 Akiya Thymes from Brusly is no slouch herself
Posted on 5/24/15 at 11:04 am to dirtytigers
Any players in the '15 class that can hit 8-10 homers next season?
Posted on 5/24/15 at 12:30 pm to Harv1790
Shemiah Sanchez, Amber Serrett, or Taylor Satchell
I expect Sanchez to DH a lot next season. Very polished hitter with tons of power. Satchell has some pop as well. Next season we will have to replace Andrews in the outfield. 2B will be up for grabs this off season. I expect one of the freshman to grab that position. Amber Serrett and Shemiah Sanchez are your likely candidates. Serrett will be one of the best defensive players to play here at LSU. Very good, she is phenomenal offensively. She has offers from almost every Division I school.
I expect Sanchez to DH a lot next season. Very polished hitter with tons of power. Satchell has some pop as well. Next season we will have to replace Andrews in the outfield. 2B will be up for grabs this off season. I expect one of the freshman to grab that position. Amber Serrett and Shemiah Sanchez are your likely candidates. Serrett will be one of the best defensive players to play here at LSU. Very good, she is phenomenal offensively. She has offers from almost every Division I school.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 12:39 pm to Tigerbait357
What kind of pitcher is Maribeth Gorsuch?
Posted on 5/24/15 at 3:19 pm to tigerbait2010
Not a power pitcher like Hoover, she currently throws a little over 60. She has good command and has most her pitches. Very good curve ball and has developed a rise ball. Her screw ball and drop balls need to be more consistent but very good pitcher. She was held back with a hand injury before but she has shined in the showcases in Houston.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 6:00 pm to Tigerbait357
If we strengthen our DP and 2B position and get 75% of the production in CF that AJ has given us then we will be really, really good next season. For much of the year we have had a 7 spot line up with the 7 and 8 holes hit or miss. When 7 and 8 have hit we have been almost unbeatable.
With each class Beth seems to fill in the weak spots. Who is the front runner for the open outfield spot?
With each class Beth seems to fill in the weak spots. Who is the front runner for the open outfield spot?
Posted on 5/26/15 at 7:18 pm to Mulerider
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Who is the front runner for the open outfield spot?
Prolly Landry CF and someone else will play RF. Lots of options with the athletes coming in.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 7:20 pm
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