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re: LSU needs to offer all of the 2011 DT's in Louisiana ... NOW!!!!

Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24185 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:43 pm to
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nd hopefully logan has beefed up if he's going to play dt


Logan is a big boy. I saw him up close. He has physically developed.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72102 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:46 pm to
Well that's encouraging to hear
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27889 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:49 pm to
He reported around 290 last Fall.





Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30050 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 9:52 pm to
look at the dt's bama have committed..they're not complaining at all
Posted by Joe Joe Joe
Givin' Him the Business
Member since Oct 2007
5745 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:09 pm to
No matter how you put it, we are pretty thin, very inexperienced and overall pretty small at DT.

Hopefully someone puts some fire into Davenport and he ends all of our worries.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12414 posts
Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:14 pm to
We'll take at least 3 DT's next year and at least 2 maybe 3 DE's.That's 5 minimum and up to 6-7 Dl guys next year.We'll be fine.Even if we would have gotten some more guys this year they wouldn't have played next year.Ferguson is the only one that would've hd the chance.Marsh wouldn't have played DT next year.Bitching about next year's rotation isn't going to change who we have there.It would be the same guys regardless.
Posted by jojo ma
Jackson,TN
Member since Oct 2009
41 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:32 am to
calm down with the d line situation and complaining about how we'll get pushed around with the smaller dts. i recall back in the 2007 i believe, that chavis dl situation at ut was WAY worse than we'll probably ever have. i remember him being down to guys who were dts weighing about 265 and he at least held up. i'll be able to sleep at night knowing the dl rotation will look like

DE
Chancey Agayhere, Lavar Edwards, Sam Montgomery, Chase Clement, and Maybe Pep.
DT
Nevis, Downs, Davenport, Brockers, Logan
Posted by ColtsTigers
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
2248 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 2:55 am to
quote:

pretty small at DT.


That is the problem. And none of the DTs we recruited would have fixed that.

Chavis seems to ignore size for whatever reason. He likes slanting and stunting, but that did him no good against Alabama and even LTech bc all that did was get his defense all out of position.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68912 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 4:19 am to
quote:

Nevis, Downs and Davenport.


maybe you should go look at the roster.... edwards is listed as dt. Plus brockers and logan can move inside.

List the players by position and you will see Edwards is listed as DT and that we have depth there.

people really need to stop posting complete and utter bullshite on this board.
This post was edited on 2/2/10 at 4:24 am
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27889 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:45 am to
The roster isn't a very good source to use. Edwards is listed as a DT but took all of his snaps at DE. Taylor is listed as a CB and was a starting safety.

But you do have a point in that we have more than just three guys at the position.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9598 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Davenport
Downs
Brockers
Logan


only two "true" Dt's

Id recruit at least three of the guys listed on Page one....esp the Freak, Rasco, and maybe two of the others...
Posted by SNAPPERHEAD
Possumneck, Ms.
Member since Jan 2006
10050 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 11:00 am to
quote:

you figure you get the in state kids first and hit texas and houston hard.then get a few in mississippi.thats enough for me.


Down year for Mississippi next year. I doubt we bother.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68912 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

only two "true" Dt's


wtf does that mean? just because only two of them played high school dt? RJF was a beast on the inside(the times he played). We are fine.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68912 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 12:55 pm to
taylor still may play cb and edwards may move inside. the point was we have more than 3 players.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9598 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

just because only two of them played high school dt?


No, you need to be at least 295lbs to be a serious DT...265-70 is large DE not a Tackle, 275 usually means u get pushed around by 320lb O-lineman unless your just an absolute beast....you gotta bea able to take the double team and hold your ground..."true DT"
This post was edited on 2/2/10 at 1:23 pm
Posted by DaveDoggy
Member since Jan 2010
223 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

but the other 2 need to be offered ASAP/TONIGHT.



I disagree. I think the primary in-state D-linemen that we should be going after this early in the game are Johnson, Rasco, and Thomas. I think we should wait until midway through Hunter and Mickey Johnson's senior years to offer them (assuming they impress). We should definitely be pursuing the two, along with many other potential in-state prospects, but I do not think that they should be offered this early.

2011 is going to be a big year for DT's nationwide and, with the already evident strength of LSU's 2011 class, there is likely to be plenty of out-of-state prospects that will want on-board.

We have already offered and should definitely be going after OG Greg Robinson right now. He'll either be a high 4-star or a 5-star prospect, and we definitely want to keep him in-state and line him up next to Collins in the future.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68912 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 1:22 pm to
so we have 1...nevis is 292. brockers is at 285 downs 275 and davenport is 323.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9598 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

so we have 1...nevis is 292. brockers is at 285 downs 275 and davenport is 323.


and you saw how are D-line got pushed around so bad this year....remember the days they were dominant....Dorsey 300lbs....look at the other dominant ones around the league, majority are around 295-300lbs...be big and quick, otherwise LB's and DB are making all the tackles...DT do two things, keep the lineman off the LB's during running plays and apply pressure on passing downs...

If you run a 3/4 which we dont, you have to have a rock in the middle to be successfull, ala Mt Cody...

4/3 isnt much different you just need two guys that dont need to get pushed around, clog the holes...
This post was edited on 2/2/10 at 1:29 pm
Posted by POTROAST
LSU fan In Portland
Member since Oct 2009
340 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

DaveDoggy
LSU needs to offer all of the 2011 DT's in Louisiana ... NOW!!!!
quote:
but the other 2 need to be offered ASAP/TONIGHT.



I disagree. I think the primary in-state D-linemen that we should be going after this early in the game are Johnson, Rasco, and Thomas. I think we should wait until midway through Hunter and Mickey Johnson's senior years to offer them (assuming they impress). We should definitely be pursuing the two, along with many other potential in-state prospects, but I do not think that they should be offered this early.

2011 is going to be a big year for DT's nationwide and, with the already evident strength of LSU's 2011 class, there is likely to be plenty of out-of-state prospects that will want on-board.

We have already offered and should definitely be going after OG Greg Robinson right now. He'll either be a high 4-star or a 5-star prospect, and we definitely want to keep him in-state and line him up next to Collins in the future.



I hear what you are saying, but LSU does not need to slow play anymore in state players that have offers from other powers as they have for the past two years. It has bit them in the a**.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9598 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

I hear what you are saying, but LSU does not need to slow play anymore in state players that have offers from other powers as they have for the past two years. It has bit them in the a**.


I hear yah, you want to keep that commrodery (or however you spell it) with the state players and tell our guys we want you first...I think our last coach did that and look what happened...
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