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re: LSU 2018 Basketball Recruiting Thread *updated-ish*

Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:21 am to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:21 am to
I don't think Wade wants a young kid. I think he wants the maturity and another physical presence inside. It's going to be a 5th year or JUCO transfer if I had to guess.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:30 am to
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Running list of transfers out there in case anyone is interest, just today another 13 added


This guy looks intriguing. Part-time starter for Syracuse, 6-8 PF, Matthew Moyer. Any chance we can get him?

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Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:32 pm to
Looking at his numbers he honestly seems like a downgrade from Sims.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:46 pm to
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Looking at his numbers he honestly seems like a downgrade from Sims.



But is 2-3" taller
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3293 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:55 pm to
I like the taliban more than syracluse, which means my 2nd favorite team (other than LSU) always plays them. Moyer is not d-1 material, he only started for the orangewomen due to a barrage of injuries and scholarship limitations due to gayheim's filthy recruiting that he has been nailed for twice now. Do not want.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 1:03 pm to
He's an upgrade from Kiir and is taller than Sims. We need depth guys for continuity to balance the talented one and dones. He's just one guy I spotted. Are there other decent looking bigs that are transfer candidates?
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 6:07 pm to
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Vandy. Hw the hell do they get 3 of the top 12?

Bryce Drew is no slouch as a coach and is supposed to be one of best young recruiting coaches in the country. Plus, it could be argued that his name was being thrown around as a bright up and coming star before Wade was.

So while I see what you are getting at, I can assure you that just as many people, and probably more, have asked the same question about how LSU has done so well in recruiting.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 10:19 pm to
Those people asking questions about LSU's recruiting would be idiots. LSU's all time team would beat anyone's with the possible exception of ucla and unc. LSU getting great players in hoops has been going on for 40+ years. Fortunately, we now have potentially the best coach in our history to go along with it.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 10:57 pm to
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Those people asking questions about LSU's recruiting would be idiots.


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LSU's all time team would beat anyone's with the possible exception of ucla and unc.


Those 2 statements have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

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LSU getting great players in hoops has been going on for 40+ years.


Occasionally here and there, not nearly as much recently, and mostly players from the state of Louisiana.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:08 pm to
He doesn't really fit what Wade wants since he's a senior transfer, but Trey Porter from Old Dominion would be a really good get. 13.2 points and 6.1 rebounds a game, along with 1.4 blocks a game and a 58 percent shooting percentage on a 25-7 team is pretty good.

Kid is transferring because he says he wants to play in the tournament. And he's 6-10 and 230, so if you added him you would have an absolutely dominant front line.

Problem is, he's a redshirt junior right now. He's got one to play one.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 5:31 am to
I have not researched this, but have been an avid LSU fan since the Dale days. I am pretty sure over the last 40+ years, LSU is SOLIDLY in the top 25 schools for basketball recruiting, vandy is not. LSU getting great players is not an anamoly, it has happened for years. We always have 5+ players in the NBA in any given year, not a hell of a lot of schools can say that.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:26 am to
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I am pretty sure over the last 40+ years, LSU is SOLIDLY in the top 25 schools for basketball recruiting,


Depends on how it's measured I'd imagine. There have been a few great players/classes, mixed with A LOT of very lean classes.

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vandy is not.


People would have just as much ground to raise eyebrows at this candy class as they would this Lsu class.

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LSU getting great players is not an anamoly, it has happened for years.


Mostly from that state of Louisiana.

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We always have 5+ players in the NBA in any given year, not a hell of a lot of schools can say that.


Not a direct correlation to recruiting success. Garrett temple and tyrus Thomas were not big recruits. Jaime Lloreda did nothing in the NBA.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:06 am to
Personally, and I think some logical people may agree, Will Wade the recruiter is still very much to be determined.

- Smart is from right here in Baton Rouge area. We know e can get good players from here. Nonetheless, it's ALWAYS a good job to keep the elite talent at home, as very recently Robert Williams got away...

- Emmitt Williams literally just about EVERYONE backed off on during his arrest and ordeal, leaving the door wide open for us to keep more contact open and "show him the love" when he wasn't getting it from really anywhere. I feel like this recruitment could have gone much different had that arrest not happened. Not saying we dont land him if that doesn't happen, but you could argue one of the worst things to happen to Williams was one of the best things to happen in our recruitment of him.

- Naz Reid, his girlfriend plays on the women's basketball team here, no doubt in my mind that played a gigantic role in him coming here, do not see him coming here without that thing in particular being in our (and Wade's) favor

- Days was a really good land for wade, seemingly with no real connections like Reid, Smart or a situation like Williams had. Now, UF didn't offer him, so that certainly helps when the flagship basketbal state school ignores a guy in their own town, but in the end he had a ton of offers and he chose us.


This is not to damper what Wade has accomplished here in in his short stint, just pointing out how we wont know about will wade the recruiter truly for a while. The way the 2019 class is beginning to take shape, it will be a handful of kids in that 100-200ish range or so, not a class full of Top 50/75 guys like this one.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:56 am to
I'm very logical with this, but I think you're being a bit too hard on Wade

I think Wade should get a TON of credit for the Emmitt Williams recruitment. Yeah, everyone backed off, but he took a chance and stuck with him throughout the whole ordeal, and in the end it paid off huge dividends. I think that shows a lot to the type of person Wade is.

With Days, he had offers (how committable? I'm not sure) from UNC, Kansas and Florida State to name a few. That's a big win in my books for Wade as well, even if the Gators didn't offer.

I think he still gets a lot of credit for keeping Smart in state. It's a huge breath of fresh air to see the top player in the state make it official as early as he did.
Haven't had the best of luck with that with the past few previous coaches (outside of Jarrel Martin).

Reid, yeah, the girlfriend was definitely the main recruitment there. Still have to do your part for someone that had an offer from about everywhere. Could Johnny have reeled him in?

I think the 2019 class is going to definitely be a foundation builder with the possible exodus we may have. Now if he surprises us with a 5-star, that would be excellent
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68353 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:42 pm to
Interesting tidbit I just found out:

Duop Reath has a younger brother who is a freshman at Lee college, Sebit Reath. He's also 6'10, and he didn't play a ton his freshman year, but Duop didn't do much either until his sophomore season.

Considering he's following in his brother's footsteps, I wonder if we have legit interest in keeping up with him and him possibly coming here if he breaks out next year at Lee college.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3293 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 3:14 pm to
Quite frankly it doesn't matter one bit if a great player is fom LA or the moon. Just off the top of my head (for sure I am omitting some) these are players that virtually EVERYBLANKINGBODY recruited, yet chose the correct school.
Kenny Higgs, Rudy Macklin, Howard Carter, Pistol, Ice Reynolds, Tito Horford, John Williams, Fess Irvin, Chris Jackson, Stanley Roberts, Shaq, Randy Livingston, Ronnie Henderson, Stromile Swift, Anthony Randolph, Big Baby, Tasmin Mitchell, Jarrell Martin, Johnny O'Bryant, Ben Simmons, Antonio Blakeny, Naz Reid, Javonte Smart, Lester Earl. Hardly few and far between. I am also not sure how highly rectuited Bob Petit and Joe Dean were, but I would imagine they make the list also. I doubt there are a dozen schools that could compete with the quality of that list. LSU getting great recruits is like the sun rising in the east every morning.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 9:06 am to
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Quite frankly it doesn't matter one bit if a great player is fom LA or the moon.


Except it very much does. Nobody bats an eye if Lsu signs great players from Louisiana, in any sport. It's actually expected.

See tbird's thoughts on Javonte smart.

Tasmin Mitchell choosing Lsu over Kentucky surprised no one.

Before he left, people still expected trent Johnson to get jarrell martin to Lsu, despite very little evidence to support the idea that he could. And were pissed when Greg Monroe left.

Signing great players from all across the country is what gets people's attention.

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Just off the top of my head (for sure I am omitting some) these are players that virtually EVERYBLANKINGBODY recruited, yet chose the correct school.


Once again, completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

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I doubt there are a dozen schools that could compete with the quality of that list.


I'm not going to go through and list every player from each school, but off the top of my head these 13 schools should be able to put together a very high quality list of signees that would compete very well with your Lsu list.

Unc, Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, Arizona, Michigan st, Indiana, Syracuse, Georgetown, uconn, Florida, Texas,

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LSU getting great recruits is like the sun rising in the east every morning.


Except it's not. There are 10 people on your list from this century, and 2 of them are in this year's class. The sun rises in the east more than just 8 times in 18 years.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3293 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:37 am to
You know, we can piss back and forth forever, but you have claimed that LSU is comparable to vandy in how surprising it is that they are signing top flight players. That is the topic YOU have gotten off of, and you are 100000% wrong about that. Vandy's best player ever is probably william baldwin the 42nd or will perdue who couldn't get the splinters out of their asses coming off of LSU's all time team's bench.
I have no clue how long you have watched LSU or sec basketball, but I go back to 1977. Once again, the problem has NEVER been can LSU attract great talent in hoops, it has been, can we manage, coach, and keep them together long enough. I have a suspicion (and hope) we have cured that with Will Wade.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:18 pm to
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You know, we can piss back and forth forever, but you have claimed that LSU is comparable to vandy in how surprising it is that they are signing top flight players. That is the topic YOU have gotten off of, and you are 100000% wrong about that.


The first comment I made about Vanderbilt in this thread was to say people have just as much reason to be surprised by Vanderbilt's class this year as they would Lsu.

Clearly you have issues with reading comprehension, staying on topic, and factually supporting your arguments. Maybe this whole message board thing just isn't really for you.

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have no clue how long you have watched LSU or sec basketball, but I go back to 1977. Once again, the problem has NEVER been can LSU attract great talent in hoops, it has been, can we manage, coach, and keep them together long enough. I have a suspicion (and hope) we have cured that with Will Wade.


Getting a big recruit 4 times every 9 years is not indicative of a basketball recruiting powerhouse. Neither is having 1 NCAA tournament victory in the last 10 years. When a school with that track record suddenly pulls in a top 5 class with multiple highly ranked players from places they havent traditionally gotten players from, it's going to lead to questions/suspicions. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Because it's already happening.

I really don't understand what is so difficult to comprehend about this.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Member since Aug 2009
29448 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 2:27 pm to
I know this is a 2018 thread, but this 2019 video was just added on Youtube

Kaleb Coleman

Goes to the same high school as Emmitt Williams. Never really noticed him much in other videos, but seems to have a solid game. Could use some more weight added to his frame, but I know we'll likely be going after Niven Glover, might as well target two guys from there
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