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Is our D-line recruiting struggles because of Aranda?

Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:47 am
Posted by dommanation
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2017
141 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:47 am
Yall think that the DL recruiting problems are because of Aranda's system. He says that the NT and DE are there to absorb the blockers so that the linebackers can roam free to make plays. Do you think we are pitching this to these high schoolers while other schools are telling them that they could be stars and make plays themselves? I could see the logic as to why these top DL would decommit or commit to other schools over the past few years. I mean I love aranda's system but we might be missing on these elite big men because of that. But maybe its just Orgeron not getting lucky or delivering.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:49 am
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25948 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:52 am to
Yes. That's it.
Posted by ShreveportTiger1987
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2014
5494 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:53 am to
Nah
Posted by biggdogg
United States
Member since May 2008
1660 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:57 am to
Definitely is, 3-4 is a defense linebackers supposed excel in
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47804 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:59 am to
Yes Aranda is hurting us.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8961 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:12 am to
Aranda's D is challenging for all involved, you have to know your role and except it to work.
Posted by duboisd
Palestine, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
2504 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:15 am to
Most 3-4 defenses work this way, including Bama’s. Most 3-4 DL know what the deal is.
Posted by ATH216
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
833 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:29 am to
We run the same 3-4 scheme that Bama does for the most part. Their DL make more plays because they’re more talented across the board and win the individual battles. If anything, Aranda’s version of the 3-4 is more aggressive for the DL when compared to Bama’s scheme.
Posted by tFearIsReal
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2015
2529 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:53 am to
I mean, if Greg Gilmore had 7 sacks from his NT position, anyone should be able to excel in Aranda's DL. I do, however, believe that we need someone to break through as an All-American for us to start getting better recruits there. There's some negative recruiting going on. It shouldn't be this hard to get recruits at the position, especially from our own state.
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
4810 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:35 am to
I'm certain our down linemen are still trying to shed blocks and make plays. Them absorbing blocks may be the effect of the scheme, but it is not end goal.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5548 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

He says that the NT and DE are there to absorb the blockers so that the linebackers can roam free to make plays.
Link?
Posted by ConeHawk
Member since Dec 2018
1961 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:56 pm to
I don't have one personally but I'm sure he said it. That is the basis of a 3-4 scheme.
Posted by TruthTellerLSU
Fulshear, Texas
Member since Jun 2018
413 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:53 pm to
No its Ed O and Meatballs fault. There are plenty of 3/4 defenses who use have great players playing NT and DE that are used the same way Aranda does his guys.

We simply arent getting it done because of mediocre coaches who arent elite recruiters on this LSU staff.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66700 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:03 pm to
Alabama and UGA both run 3-4s and seem to be recruiting fine.

Not to mention Aranda runs a 1 gap scheme

Wade Phillips is a. 3-4 guys and JJ Watts and Aaron Donald do more than eat blocks. We just don’t have those guys.

This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Shrike63
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
480 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:32 pm to
Is our? Stopped reading at that point.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:43 pm to
I thought with the coach we have now running the program we'd be overflowing with DL talent. Not so much.
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 4:12 pm to
I think LSU's biggest problem is the level of DL talent on the starting line, along with quality of depth. We simply don't have enough talented, nasty DL to compete with Alabama and we don't have enough depth behind the starters to provide a consistent high level of play all game long!
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12392 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 4:16 pm to
Think part of it is his simulated pressure system but most of it is the horses we have aren't great pass rushers.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5548 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

I don't have one personally but I'm sure he said it. That is the basis of a 3-4 scheme.
No. No, it's not.

There are many ways to run a 3-4.
Posted by preferredwalkon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
134 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:40 pm to
If someone doesn't get geeked up at the fact he's p lb. Saying for aranda and an elite defense they're other players we should be looking at. Being the "playmaker" sometimes means consistantly holding your responsibility on the D-line. Doesn't always show up on the stat sheet but I promise opposing coaches and NFL scouts pay attention.
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