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re: Is LSU going away from the white athlete ?

Posted on 7/21/11 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by homeindadome
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Posted on 7/21/11 at 8:09 pm to
TigerAlum93, good post
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/22/11 at 7:50 am to
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LSU recruits what Louisiana has. That is all.....

Bingo! Not many white people left in Louisiana. Alabama has 500,000 more white residents than La. despite having about the same population.LSU recruits what is available.White flight continues in La. because of the lack of jobs.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 7/22/11 at 9:36 am to
Im curious as to why there was such an outcry for the decline of black baseball players but in contrast nothing said for the decline of white football players?
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 7/22/11 at 10:02 am to
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Im curious as to why there was such an outcry for the decline of black baseball players but in contrast nothing said for the decline of white football players?

Because the "decline" of white players is because of ability not lack of interest.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 7/22/11 at 10:16 am to
If thats the case why are there any white players playing at all? There are just as many good white football players as there are black baseball players.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 7/22/11 at 10:39 am to
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If thats the case why are there any white players playing at all?

I didn't say all white players lack the ability just usually the ones at some skill positions.
This post was edited on 7/22/11 at 10:44 am
Posted by RBTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/22/11 at 12:48 pm to
My man saintsfan22....PLEASE read this epic Sports Illustrated article "Out of the Running" written by Phil Taylor....quit analyzing this thing thru a straw!

LINK

Here's a sample....
but others, like Dillon Romain, are still waiting. Last spring Romain seemed to have the necessary credentials to attract droves of college recruiters. He's big enough (5'11", 210 pounds) and fast enough (4.46 in the 40 according to Scout.com, a recruiting website), and as a senior at powerhouse Don Bosco Prep in Ramsey, N.J., he rushed for 1,435 yards and 25 touchdowns, earning the state's Gatorade Player of the Year award. Each of the previous 10 winners of that honor earned Division I scholarships, including three current NFL players, Broncos quarterback Chris Simms, Bears tight end Greg Olsen and Jaguars offensive tackle Eugene Monroe—but not Romain. When he received no D-I offers by national signing day, he decided to take a postgraduate year at Blair Academy in Blairstown, N.J.

WHY???
>>>>Evaluating players shouldn't be about what we envision but what we see. That lesson should have been learned from the decades of discrimination against black quarterbacks at colleges and in the pros. Despite the obvious parallels, no one seems to be as concerned that white tailbacks are getting the same treatment. "I did dozens of interviews about the lack of opportunity for an African-American to be a QB back in the 1980s and early '90s," says Richard Lapchick, director of the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport at Central Florida, "but this is only the second time I have been asked about the lack of opportunity for whites to be running backs." Maybe that's because racism isn't the culprit here; it's mostly white coaches and talent evaluators who are choosing black running backs over white ones. But it doesn't make the color line any less real.

It's not that football needs to aim for some acceptable distribution of races throughout the field, and it's not that every white would-be tailback who is passed over or directed to a different position is the victim of stereotyping. It's about equality of opportunity, just as it has always been. The sports world may be enlightened enough not to immediately dismiss the idea of African-Americans as quarterbacks or coaches anymore, but maybe we haven't come as far as we thought. Maybe we've just found a new demographic to discourage. The dashing of dreams is always an ugly thing, no matter what shade the dreamers come in.

This post was edited on 7/22/11 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Gumbyxl
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/22/11 at 1:01 pm to
This comment is idiotic and just plain ole ignorant. LSU has several white athletes when you combine all the sports the Tigers partake in i.e., baseball, softball, swimming, track, etc. Let's not just look at the football team as an indication of LSU not recruiting the white athletes. Les Miles would be fool hardy to bypass a green colored athlete if he feels that he would be a major contributor. In my opinion, the only color I see is purple and gold. Perhaps Tigerfan63, if you could pull those sheets off your eyes you can find something more compelling than the color of skin God blessed us all with. Your argument has raciest overtones to it. In summation, you sound like a bigget.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/22/11 at 1:12 pm to
That is a good read and very similar to my earlier post.

I DO think there is a stereotype against white kids playing skilled positions, on a national level, not just LSU. There are plenty of good ones out there and more should probably be given the opportunities. But once again, look at what guys like Warren Moon, Doug Williams, etc. were able to do against the black QB stereotype. My message to the white football player is to step up your game and make it to where the coaches HAVE to notice you.

Hopefully somebody like Jacob Hester's success will help the white kids in our area. The Quinn kid, 2014 WR at Barbe will be an interesting one to watch. You watch his film and you see him making big plays against white and black kids from Evangel, West Monroe, etc. I still think that if you make plays, the coaches will find you.

I think LSU's staff has done a great job with recruiting and I don't really pay attention to the skin color of our recruits. As long as they give us a chance to win, go to class, and represent my Alma Mater well on AND off the field, then I could care less what color they are.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 5:52 pm to
Peyton Hillis is the Warren Moon of White running backs.
Posted by GeekedUp
Virginia
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 6:45 pm to
Lol @ white athletes.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 10:38 am to
Why? Are you implying there are no successful white athletes?
Posted by buck54
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 7/24/11 at 11:07 am to
It's pretty obvious Les has a mental inferiority complex. When T-Bob snapped the ball against Tenn without the leader of the team saying hike, he violated chain of command and disrespected the chosen one. He's just doing his best to make sure those who play for him are not smarter than him. Im sure it's still not working perfectly because a few of the brothas we have are pretty sharp. I guess he's just playing the odds. (Just kidding, but who knows with Les. He doesn't think coach or eat like other coaches.)
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 5:15 pm to
This is silly...I'm not worried about color as long as we have a clean program, that tries to develop character in the players, and competes for championships. It just so happens all the best OL in the state were black doesn't mean miles has a preference on color.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62480 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 5:22 pm to
Uh, last year, we had Hill, Hilliard, and Magee. He would have to be a stud to jump ahaed of those guys. Look at the offer of Brown(white lb from Miss), he just sent Debo, and Otha packing. Its about talent!
Posted by longview2
Member since Apr 2011
242 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 5:23 pm to
MLK u ain't
Posted by DVtiger
Alsatian Valley
Member since Aug 2007
663 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 10:33 pm to
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MLK u ain't
Jesse Jackson u is.
Posted by northwinds
Member since Jul 2011
1 post
Posted on 7/25/11 at 12:07 pm to
"Because the "decline" of white players is because of ability not lack of interest."

I guess you missed out on the Green Bay Packers winning the SuperBowl this year....lots of white folks on the team.






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