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If we keep Frank, Ed O and raymond

Posted on 11/22/15 at 3:53 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26631 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 3:53 am
I don't see our recruiting class changing much.

We probably lose Franks but why would others leave? Why would the defensive recruits leave? They have to be ready to play because all spots should be open for competition. They'll get plenty of play time.

Outside of Franks we have some WRs and a TE and some OL, don't see any of these guys leaving either. I'm 100% positive we are getting a new OC and 75%, a new HC. As long as we make a non shite hire/s, we should retain everybody but Feleipe.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5602 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 5:58 am to
When Alleva replied with no comments when asked last night, it was pretty clear to me it was all but over for Miles.

It will all come down to who the next head coach will be, and how much of. The current staff remains.

Recruits don't just look at the here and now. Miles being on the hot seat now means he is on the hot seat for the next 2 years. Recruits look at longevity too.
Posted by EzSkyWalker
Member since Jul 2015
14 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 7:16 am to
Move cameron to the quaterback coach and find the best OC in the country & best head coach in the country available or not money talks & Lsu has plenty.. then we'll keep everyone and pull major surprises.. the recruits will see our immediate urge for change and we're good! First step beat a&m... then the firing has to happen asap!
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22796 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 8:23 am to
Every head coach is going to want his choice of assistants. He would probably keep some of the current staff if available, but whoever comes in would not just keep the staff intact.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9596 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:03 am to
Raymond? Have you seen our dbs this year?
Posted by DownByTheBayou
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
911 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:29 am to
I think it's almost vital that we keep Ed O and Wilson regardless of whose here. Both with a proven track record that any new coach would want whether its Jimbo or freakin Vince Lombardi.

Corey Raymond is on the hot seat too you would think with the way the play in DB has almost dropped off. We'll see.

This post was edited on 11/22/15 at 9:30 am
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34847 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:52 am to
Moses is likely lost to Bama tho
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3937 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:55 am to
Les Miles signed 13 coming into his first year when Saban left. Some stayed onboard and others he went out to recruit.

So sure we'll be able to keep the 3 stars and some 4's and maybe get 1 five. If it is a coach the players would be unfamiliar with.

The LSU admin doesn't have to listen to any of us. However, it is my hope they make the big move to retain the class and add a since of stability for the near future. I hope Jimbo is sincerely interested in coming here as rumors might suggest. That could save this entire class. Many of the top guys we're trying to sign would be willing to listen to ex-HC from FSU.
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
2153 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:55 am to
You need to keep all three...regardless to whoever the HC will be...Regarding Raymond, this has not been a good year for DBs...I would attribute that more to adjusting to Steele's scheme..He's suddenly not a good position coach
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3937 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Corey Raymond is on the hot seat too you would think with the way the play in DB has almost dropped off.


Bring back Ron Cooper for the DB position.
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
2153 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:03 am to
It is my understanding Ron Cooper did not recruit...in the Louisiana area, you need to build relationships with H.S coaches and families
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
11065 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:18 am to
You might be right too LSUTool

Price you pay tho when you have to hire a new HC.It is what it is.
Posted by BOZ4LSU
A place
Member since Jan 2012
2390 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:24 am to
Hate to lose Franks. We need a stud QB
Posted by Tigerfan_95
Member since Jun 2014
2932 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:26 am to
His db's are getting steeled.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3514 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:43 am to
Raymond is one of the best DB coaches in the country. New schemes are the prob.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26631 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Raymond? Have you seen our dbs this year?


You know that isn't on Raymond. That almost same squad was ranked #3 in the country last were with no pass rush.
Posted by Pacito
Member since Jan 2013
1222 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:45 am to
Db's haven't been the problem this year. The last 3 games they played pretty good. Alabama and Arkansas were held to less than 200 yards passing and Ole Miss to under 300. A lot of those passing yards were on linebackers not covering the flats. Other than a few busted plays, I think the DB's have played pretty good this year.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38121 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 12:09 pm to
Coaches typically want their own staff. But any coach coming to LSU would be dumb not to have O and Wilson. I'm not familiar with the FSU staff as far as RB and DL coaches go, but I know Tim Brewster is his recruiting coordinator and TEs coach and he's a great recruiter. Get those 3 guys on the same staff and OMG.
Posted by PentagonTiger
Taylor Hall
Member since Dec 2008
1612 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 1:15 pm to
That's something the fan base would have to come to terms with. If Miles leaves, we likely lose Frank, O, and Raymond. Very rarely are coaches retained when the head coach leaves. We kept Jimbo when Saban left, but that usually doesn't happen.
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
2153 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 1:26 pm to
There are only a couple of coaches who would be allowed to come in and not be asked to hold on to Frank and O...These guys are known for their incredible work around the country...anyone else you bring in would be a significant drop off...The competitive edge LSU has is a strong recruiting base that it doesn't have to share with another in state power five team...the entire SEC west and add Florida would pillage our state's talent
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