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If our recruiting class was a starting lineup - and their rankings

Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:29 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:29 am
Using 247 Composite. Number in parenthesis is their position ranking nationally, followed by their star rating.

LB and DB are elite, which is obvious. I think a very underrated OL haul as well though.


QB: Myles Brennan (#6 PS), Lowell Narcisse (#9 DT) – 4*
RB: Clyde Edwards-Helaire (#5 APB) – 3*
FB: Tory Carter (#3) – 3*
OT: Austin Deculus (#10) – 4*
OG: Saahdiq Charles (#19) - 4*
C: -------------------------
OG: Edward Ingram (#13) – 4*
OT: Seth Stewart (#70) – 3*
WR: Manny Netherly (#38) – 4*
WR: Racey McMath (#89) – 3*
WR: -------------------------
TE: -------------------------

DE: Neil Farrell (#26 DT) – 3* (Aaron Moffitt (#39) – 3*)
DT: Tyler Shlevin (#4) – 4*
DE: Justin Thomas (#19) – 3*
OLB: K’Lavon Chaisson (#4 DE) – 4* (criminally underrated in composite)
ILB: Tyler Taylor (#11) – 4*
ILB: Jacob Phillips (#1) – 4*
OLB: Patrick Queen (#16 ATH) – 4*
CB: Kary Vincent (#12) – 4*
S: Grant Delpit (#9) – 4*
S: Jacoby Stevens (#1) – 5*
CB: Jontre Kirklin (#49 ATH) – 3*
NB: Todd Harris (#11 S) – 4*
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 10:04 am
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
4377 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:31 am to
Neil Farrell Will be playing Defensive End in our defense and Jontre Kirlklin should be starter opposite Vincent with Harris playing Nickel/Run support
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:32 am to
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Neil Farrell Will be playing Defensive End in our defense and Jontre Kirlklin should be starter opposite Vincent with Harris playing Nickel/Run support


Will change Farrell, but I wasn't sure on Kirklin. Will change too.
Posted by Jmwtigre
Tyler, TX
Member since Oct 2015
1232 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:37 am to

Again, we have great talent.

I just looked at the highlights for Queen as running back & he is a very good. Would like to him in spot duty as RB.
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
4377 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:40 am to
Only way queen moves to RB is if we can't get recruiting going for that in 2018. We have just as much a need in his OLB position as we do in RB
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35399 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:43 am to
Thanks for putting that together, it's interesting to see..

I'd be interested to see where that compares to other school's classes. Maybe, at least the top 10-15 classes to compare against, just for sake of conversation and see where we stack up.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:46 am to
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I'd be interested to see where that compares to other school's classes.


You don't want to see Bama's



ETA:

But here ya go (no star ratings, I didn't put this one together)

Position, 247C Natl Position Rank, Name

OFFENSE
QB - #1, Tua Tagovailoa
RB - #2, Najee Harris
OT - #1, Alex Leatherwood
OT - #1 JC, Elliot Baker
OG - #7, Jedrick Willis
OG - #12, Kendall Randolph
C - #12, Hunter Brannon
TE - #9, Major Tennison
WR - #3, Jerry Jeudy
WR - #9, Devonta Smith
WR - #11, Henry Ruggs III

DEFENSE
DE - #1 JC, Isaiah Buggs
DT - #7, Phidarian MAthis
DE - #1, LaBryan Ray
LB - #2, Dylan Moses
LB - #4, Chris Allen
LB - #5, VanDarius Cowan
LB - #7, Markail Benton
CB - #47, Kyriq McDonald
CB - #6 ATH, Chadarius Townsend
S - #6, Xavier McKinney
S - #16, Daniel Wright
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 9:47 am
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35399 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:51 am to


You're right, I didn't need to see that.

Must be nice with the embarrassment of riches they have.

Thanks for putting all of that together, even getting the Bama one.
Posted by jladne3
Houston
Member since Nov 2010
1173 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:56 am to
quote:

OFFENSE
QB - #1, Tua Tagovailoa
RB - #2, Najee Harris
OT - #1, Alex Leatherwood
OT - #1 JC, Elliot Baker
OG - #7, Jedrick Willis
OG - #12, Kendall Randolph
C - #12, Hunter Brannon
TE - #9, Major Tennison
WR - #3, Jerry Jeudy
WR - #9, Devonta Smith
WR - #11, Henry Ruggs III

DEFENSE
DE - #1 JC, Isaiah Buggs
DT - #7, Phidarian MAthis
DE - #1, LaBryan Ray
LB - #2, Dylan Moses
LB - #4, Chris Allen
LB - #5, VanDarius Cowan
LB - #7, Markail Benton
CB - #47, Kyriq McDonald
CB - #6 ATH, Chadarius Townsend
S - #6, Xavier McKinney
S - #16, Daniel Wright


Mother of God...
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43109 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:32 am to
quote:

But here ya go
Yea but besides these guys, what's Bama got?
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
4377 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:34 am to
They managed to field an entire starting football squad
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3095 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:42 am to
Why do you think no one wants to be a head coach in the SEC? And before you all pffft that statement, look at the recent hires. And look at the hot commodities like Herman and Fleck who ran to the Big XII and B1G.

Right now it is Bama and everyone else. We are close on talent but not there. So we need Aranda and Canada to have the game plan of their lives and we need our players to play above their heads - one team, one heartbeat.

Ironically, I think losing big headed, attention whore recruits to Bama is helpful in this regard.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:59 am to
If, theoretically, all of Bama's class qualified and weren't processed, that would be a top 10 team. Just that recruiting class.

That is so fricking absurd.
Posted by Jimmie the Geek
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
1126 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 11:08 am to

quote:

OFFENSE
QB - #1, Tua Tagovailoa
RB - #2, Najee Harris
OT - #1, Alex Leatherwood
OT - #1 JC, Elliot Baker
OG - #7, Jedrick Willis
OG - #12, Kendall Randolph
C - #12, Hunter Brannon
TE - #9, Major Tennison
WR - #3, Jerry Jeudy
WR - #9, Devonta Smith
WR - #11, Henry Ruggs III

DEFENSE
DE - #1 JC, Isaiah Buggs
DT - #7, Phidarian MAthis
DE - #1, LaBryan Ray
LB - #2, Dylan Moses
LB - #4, Chris Allen
LB - #5, VanDarius Cowan
LB - #7, Markail Benton
CB - #47, Kyriq McDonald
CB - #6 ATH, Chadarius Townsend
S - #6, Xavier McKinney
S - #16, Daniel Wright


The good news is that most of these kids won't see consistant playing time for 3-4 years.






This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 11:10 am
Posted by LeggauxTigers
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2014
579 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Aranda and Canada to have the game plan of their lives and we need our players to play above their heads

Lol are you being serious?? how short sighted, we were literally One play from beating them the last 3x's we played in Death Valley with a silly Les Miles gameplan, we send talent to the NFL at the same pace, play above out heads nah we just needed an OC to not squander our talent, which we now have.
Posted by tigercreole
United States of Russia
Member since Jul 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 11:24 am to
Looks like a roster for IMG University.
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
4941 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 1:44 pm to
I made the following list a few days ago:

For below Depth Chart- using upcoming relevant Juniors and 2016 & 2017 LSU Football Recruits

Example as starters for 2017 & 2018 season

2017 Starters / Backups
DE- Glen Logan (RSF) 6'4" 300 Justin Thomas (TR), Aaron Moffit (TF)
NG- Ed Alexander (So) 6'2" 340 Tyler Shelvin (TF), Neil Farrell (TF)
DE- Rashard Lawrence (So) 6'4" 315 Neil Farrell (TF)
OLB- Arden Key (Jr) 6'6" 250 Rahssan Thorton (So), Sci Martin (RSF),
ILB- Devin White (So) 6'1" 245 Tyler Taylor (TF), Patrick Queen (TF)
ILB- Jacob Phillips (TF) 6'1" 235 Michael Divinity (So), Layton Garnett (RSF)
OLB- K'Loven Chaisson (TF) 6'5" 220 Andre Anthony (TF)
CB- Kristian Fulton (So) 6'0" 190 Greedy Williams (RSF),
S- Eric Monroe (RSF) 6'1" 195 Cam Lewis (So), Xavier Lewis (RSSo)
SS- Jacoby Stevens (TF) Grant Delpit (TF), Todd Harris (TF)
CB- Saivion Smith (So) 6'1" 188 Kary Vincent (TF)

DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS:

Do you realize the talent in these last 2 classes, assuming we get the ones I have already penciled in as starters like Chaisson and if Logan starts? If those guys are the starters, we ONLY lose Arden Key if he comes out for the draft!! We have 2-4 years with all of the above talent. Now, I have one guy from below starting and that is Sr. John Battle. So if Key leaves after 2017 then we gain 9 starters back with all of those quality backups. Defense wins championships, so 2018 or 2019 are our years to win the Natty (or Both)

Upperclassmen that may start or solid backups

S- John Battle (Sr) He starts where I have Eric Monroe (Solid Player)

LB- Donnie Alexander (Sr) I think Phillips will beat him out, more physical and quicker

DE- Frank Herron 6'4" 295 (Sr) I think Lawrence or Logan or Farrell beats him out but he is a good backup for 2017

NG/DE- Greg Gilmore (Sr) 6'4" 315 and Lacouture 6'5" 310 (Sr) they get beat out by the young guns, but a great leader and awesome backup. We also have Deandre Clark 6'4" 260 at DE who is a solid backup

CB/S- Ed Paris (Sr) He plays backup to nickel or Safety
We have awesome DB for the class of 2018 like Kelvin Joseph, Nadab Joseph , Caden Sterns and Patrick Surtain Jr. is looking good for us. Our DB are stacked until 2020. If we get these LB our LB and DL will be also fine for 3-4 years because we will keep getting solid DL and LB with Coach O and Aranda.

I had to edit my own list because we lost Wilson...dam! I made this list a few days ago before NSD
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2129 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS

Not when you can't score a single point. I think the biggest advantage Bama has over LSU, and a very significant one, is the O-line recruiting and units fielded. Our D-line can go up against their O-line man for man and match up well. Elite talent both ways. Our O-line can't go against their D-line man for man and match up well. Elite talent one way
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
4377 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

2017 Starters / Backups DE- Glen Logan (RSF) 6'4" 300 Justin Thomas (TR), Aaron Moffit (TF) NG- Ed Alexander (So) 6'2" 340 Tyler Shelvin (TF), Neil Farrell (TF) DE- Rashard Lawrence (So) 6'4" 315 Neil Farrell (TF) OLB- Arden Key (Jr) 6'6" 250 Rahssan Thorton (So), Sci Martin (RSF), ILB- Devin White (So) 6'1" 245 Tyler Taylor (TF), Patrick Queen (TF) ILB- Jacob Phillips (TF) 6'1" 235 Michael Divinity (So), Layton Garnett (RSF) OLB- K'Loven Chaisson (TF) 6'5" 220 Andre Anthony (TF) CB- Kristian Fulton (So) 6'0" 190 Greedy Williams (RSF), S- Eric Monroe (RSF) 6'1" 195 Cam Lewis (So), Xavier Lewis (RSSo) SS- Jacoby Stevens (TF) Grant Delpit (TF), Todd Harris (TF) CB- Saivion Smith (So) 6'1" 188 Kary Vincent (TF


Sorry Buddy but you don't even have Donte Jackson or Kevin Tolliver in here at all. There is no way we have 5 freshman starting (Red shirt and True)

Frank Herron has a DE spot, Battle solidified his safety spot I thought he did great last year and Donnie will be the next Duke Riley and Chaisson on the other side of Key will be situational, for the most part that OLB spot will be played by a player closer to the skills of an ILB.

The take home here though is the DEPTH that we now have on Defense is insane and we will have fresh legs all the time.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19749 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 2:49 pm to
Defensive players of last 2 classes

DE - Lawrence/Thomas/Moffitt
NT - Alexander/Shelvin
DE - Logan/Roddy/Farrell
Buck - Anthony/Martin/Chaisson
ILB - White/Taylor
ILB - Phillips/Queen
F-OLB - Divinity/Thornton
CB - Smith/Williams/Kirklin
S - Monroe/Stevens
S - Cam/Delpit/Harris
CB - Fulton/Vincent
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