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re: Everyone says we need a Big WR...Who is left ?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:34 am to bopper50
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:34 am to bopper50
With Mett, Rivers, and now gunner keil, we will be a pro style offense...we have to be or he wouldn't be lining these guys up...So a WR career at Lsu in the next three-four years will be a great one..
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Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:09 am to lsufanva
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Have you seen their offense? Ours is better and that is saying a lot. Obviously we aren't getting DGB but our offensive situation is way more promising than Texas'.
False, as long as they have Bryan Harsin as OC, their offensive situation will have a lot more promise than LSU's. Look at their current recruiting class if you doubt me.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:42 am to jembeurt
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Armand Williams is 6'3" 200lbs.
Hopefully he can be that big wr for LSU.
I love Armand Williams. His potential is huge. He can jump out of his own goddamn cleats on top of being 6'3" and having a 6'6" arm span and being very fast. He was also pretty damn good at basketball.
Can somebody post his HS track and field stats?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:54 am to ItsThatDude12
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he jumped 7'1.
Slightly stretching the truth there. His PB is 6'10", he never cleared 7'0"...although he came very close. He won state last year clearing 6'8" and beating William Leblanc, who is now high jumping for LSU.
With that said, he has tremendous leaping ability and great body control when he leaves his feet.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:52 pm to TarheelwithsonatBama
DGB is staying at home or going to Arkansas or Oklahoma. Arky throws the ball so much he'd get as much press as Blackmon.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 2:51 pm to TK421
quote:Why? Nothing in his tenure so far at Texas suggests this. Is it because he was the most recent coach to ride Peterson's coattails to a better paying gig? And a bunch of in-state locks drinking the Kool-Aid is supposed to prove that UT's situation is better than ours?
False, as long as they have Bryan Harsin as OC, their offensive situation will have a lot more promise than LSU's. Look at their current recruiting class if you doubt me.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 3:41 pm to Gravitiger
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Nothing in his tenure so far at Texas suggests this
He's been there for one year, and their offense was much improved.
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And a bunch of in-state locks drinking the Kool-Aid is supposed to prove that UT's situation is better than ours?
No, the fact that they have multiple 5 star recruits currently on their offense and the fact that they will have two more next year is all the convincing you should need.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 3:50 pm to TK421
quote:"Much improved" is a great exaggeration. Scoring had a slight improvement. Total offense was virtually unchanged. Rushing offense was better and passing offense was significantly worse. They have no QB (remember, if you have two, you don't have any), and many times throughout the season they looked as dysfunctional as ever. Like LSU during the last few Crowton years, they don't really have an offensive identity.
He's been there for one year, and their offense was much improved.
quote:We also have multiple 5 star recruits currently on our offense and at least one more next year. Lots of teams have that. Doesn't necessarily mean their situation is any better than ours. Tennessee and Florida have multiple 5 star players and their offenses blow donkey balls.
No, the fact that they have multiple 5 star recruits currently on their offense and the fact that they will have two more next year is all the convincing you should need.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 3:53 pm to Gravitiger
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They have no QB
Neither does LSU
If you think LSU has a better offensive outlook than Texas, you are simply being a homer. Again, check out their current recruiting class. Johnathan Gray set national high school records as a running back. And he will be on top of two good running backs they already have. One of which almost set the Big 12 freshman record.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 4:01 pm to TK421
quote:I'd take Mett for one-two years, then Kiel for two-three years, over either of the goobers splitting reps for UT for the rest of their careers. That doesn't even take Randall into consideration. Wouldn't you?
If you think LSU has a better offensive outlook than Texas, you are simply being a homer. Again, check out their current recruiting class. Johnathan Gray set national high school records as a running back. And he will be on top of two good running backs they already have. One of which almost set the Big 12 freshman record.
We were better than them on offense this year and I don't expect that to change next year. Games aren't won with paper recruiting classes (as Texas has proven for the past two years). The star rankings say whatever it is they say, but they don't equal results.
We already have four proven good running backs, with Hill coming in on top of them. Gray is not a whole lot better than Hilliard anyway IMO.
I am not saying DGB should choose LSU over Texas or Mizzou or Arky if he wants to catch a lot of balls, but I disagree that Texas' situation is soooo much better than ours because of their unproven OC and unproven paper talent.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 4:05 pm to Gravitiger
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I'd take Mett for one-two years, then Kiel for two-three years, over either of the goobers splitting reps for UT for the rest of their careers
That's because you know nothing about their recruits and you have no way of knowing if either of those qbs will work out to begin with.
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We were better than them on offense this year and I don't expect that to change next year
Because you are a homer.
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We already have four proven good running backs,
no we don't
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Gray is not a whole lot better than Hilliard anyway IMO.
Then you are stupid and have not watched any film.
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I am not saying DGB should choose LSU over Texas or Mizzou or Arky if he wants to catch a lot of balls
Exactly. Major offensive recruits would be out of their minds coming here.
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their unproven OC
Credibility = blownPosted on 1/12/12 at 4:15 pm to TK421
So if I disagree with you, that must mean my opinion is completely unfounded and uninformed. It couldn't possibly be that two reasonable, rational minds could consider the same facts and reach different conclusions. Anyway, since this is how we're doing this, my point by point response:
quote:I'm not talking about their recruits. I'm talking about the two guys they have right nowthat can't distance themselves from each other's mediocrity. I have confidence that at least Mett will work out. More confidence than I have in either of their guys, anyway.
That's because you know nothing about their recruits and you have no way of knowing if either of those qbs will work out to begin with.
quote:Because I watched us play, watched them play, and know what we both have coming back and coming in.
Because you are a homer.
quote:Yes we do (Ware, Ford, Blue, Hilliard). I said "good." They are all at least "good."
no we don't
quote:Watched a good bit of film of both. Both are beasts. Gray is just not THAT much better.
Then you are stupid and have not watched any film.
quote:I guess Mett, Randall, Gunner, Jarvis, Beckham, La'el, Kenny, Hill, Avery, etc. are all out of their minds.
Exactly. Major offensive recruits would be out of their minds coming here.
quote:Because I'm not impressed that he simply took over Peterson's system at Boise, then had a decidedly mediocre year when he finally started playing legitimate defenses and had to figure it out on his own?
Credibility = blown
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:53 pm to Gravitiger
The Texas argument is a losing one. Ash-meh. McCoy-already threatened to transfer and meh. Brewer-soft arm. Their own homers will tell you the coaching staff has no faith in their qbs currently or Brewer the recruit. They were entertaing a JC qb up until last week because of that lack of confidence.
I'll give you Malcolm Brown because he's a stud. Bergeron is a good,solid back but we have 4 minimum that are more talented. Gray is a stud but has carried the ball a ton in hs on a solid but not big frame and already has knee issues. He specifically chose Texas because he could share carries. Not exactly the thinking of a star though he is immensely talented. The argument against our 5 current rbs plus Hill coming in is ridiculous. What happened at Texas this year? Brown and Bergeron(along with Whitaker) got hurt and they couldn't run the ball. Add to that Gray's recurring knee soreness and you have a recipe for disaster. They have a couple of elite talents at rb but LSU has 5 or 6 that can all carry the load and be just as effective. There are only so many carries in a game. Does it matter how many backs get those carries or the pure talent if they produce the same?
Texas has complete shite at wr. Their best wr is Jaxon Shipley who is talented and will be very good if they can get him the ball. Mike Davis has already been surrounded by rumors of transfering and had a bad year this year. The 5* wr they had just transfered to Missouri and did nothing at Texas(Darius White). They have Caleyb Jones and Marcus Johnson coming in as sure wrs. The others are athletes that are better db prospects but want to play wr and are being given the chance. They just lost their best wr commit in Thomas Johnson.
Texas has no TEs to speak of.
Their OL was solid and has talent but has severely underachieved.
Texas' own insiders point blank will tell you that while confident with DGB, the offense does scare him and may be the reason he decides on Arkansas.
Sounds like a lot of promise and hope doesn't it. We averaged 40 a game and ran down people's throats all year with extremely lowl level qbs. Mettenberger and Kiel are significant upgrades in talent alone and both have been lauded for their mental ability to play the position. Granted neither offense is exactly a selling point to wrs at this point but any argument for Texas' offense over ours is ridiculous. We would shut them down and it wouldn't be that difficult. We'd eventually run through them on offense. Aside from Bama's defense we did pretty much what we wanted to this year.
I'll give you Malcolm Brown because he's a stud. Bergeron is a good,solid back but we have 4 minimum that are more talented. Gray is a stud but has carried the ball a ton in hs on a solid but not big frame and already has knee issues. He specifically chose Texas because he could share carries. Not exactly the thinking of a star though he is immensely talented. The argument against our 5 current rbs plus Hill coming in is ridiculous. What happened at Texas this year? Brown and Bergeron(along with Whitaker) got hurt and they couldn't run the ball. Add to that Gray's recurring knee soreness and you have a recipe for disaster. They have a couple of elite talents at rb but LSU has 5 or 6 that can all carry the load and be just as effective. There are only so many carries in a game. Does it matter how many backs get those carries or the pure talent if they produce the same?
Texas has complete shite at wr. Their best wr is Jaxon Shipley who is talented and will be very good if they can get him the ball. Mike Davis has already been surrounded by rumors of transfering and had a bad year this year. The 5* wr they had just transfered to Missouri and did nothing at Texas(Darius White). They have Caleyb Jones and Marcus Johnson coming in as sure wrs. The others are athletes that are better db prospects but want to play wr and are being given the chance. They just lost their best wr commit in Thomas Johnson.
Texas has no TEs to speak of.
Their OL was solid and has talent but has severely underachieved.
Texas' own insiders point blank will tell you that while confident with DGB, the offense does scare him and may be the reason he decides on Arkansas.
Sounds like a lot of promise and hope doesn't it. We averaged 40 a game and ran down people's throats all year with extremely lowl level qbs. Mettenberger and Kiel are significant upgrades in talent alone and both have been lauded for their mental ability to play the position. Granted neither offense is exactly a selling point to wrs at this point but any argument for Texas' offense over ours is ridiculous. We would shut them down and it wouldn't be that difficult. We'd eventually run through them on offense. Aside from Bama's defense we did pretty much what we wanted to this year.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:49 am to lsufanva
How did my thread turn into Texas Football ?
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