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re: Ego to stay at DE at LSU?

Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:56 am to
Posted by Sonny G
Houston, TX
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:56 am to
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You think in his film he does this better then Copeland Or possibly J.Allen (if moves inside)?


No, Copeland is even better at shooting the gap than Ego...go watch his film! He is flat out awesome at blowing up plays...his film is an exposition of how to shoot the gap and blow up plays!

I just think that we need at least 6 to 8 DTs in the rotation to prevent our DTs from getting winded.

I also think that Levingston and Brockers won't be ideal for the DT position...but hell, I may be very wrong in the end.

That's just my 2 cents...

This post was edited on 2/6/10 at 10:58 am
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:56 am to
Also, if Ego went to Hargrave, he basically has already redshirted. Correct?

He went to high school, then went to Hargrave to develop and get better grades. So, age-wise, he is a true sophomore. So maybe he is developed and not a tweener. Maybe he is already at the size he will be and be a dominant big DE.
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1718 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 11:00 am to
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Don't be obtuse...flat out speed and lateral quickness are 75% of what it takes to be a great DE with it being a given that you have the body frame to be a DE.


Obtuse?? What im not understanding..Im asking for examples from you besides 75% is speed and lateral quickness in being a great DE.

I just want to ask one question...Do you know what the term "Squeeze" means at the DE position?
Posted by ianrules22
Member since Nov 2009
2636 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 11:04 am to
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Also, if Ego went to Hargrave, he basically has already redshirted. Correct?
No, i'm pretty sure he still has all of his eligibility...
Posted by Sonny G
Houston, TX
Member since May 2009
508 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 11:06 am to
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just want to ask one question...Do you know what the term "Squeeze" means at the DE position?


No, maybe not or I might have heard of it before...if you are talking about defending/playing the option...I only played HS football and at corner for that matter...and I'm no expert at evaluating talent...I have another day job!

If you disagree with my assesment, just come out and say it...make your point about playing the squeeze...

This post was edited on 2/6/10 at 11:09 am
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1718 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 11:09 am to
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No, Copeland is even better at shooting the gap than Ego...go watch his film! He is flat out awesome at blowing up plays...his film is an exposition of how to shoot the gap and blow up plays!

I just think that we need at least 6 to 8 DTs in the rotation to prevent our DTs from getting winded


Agree totally, Thats where he's going to have to contribute. In my original post, im just seeing players ahead of him that are more advanced at this stage. Both in this signing class and whats already there in Davenport,Brockers,Downs, now copeland, and with Johnson and Johnson in 11, its going to be a log jam at that position.

Therefore, thats the only reason i said "bust" (based on his recruiting rating) as i just dont see him standing out with quality at position and the youth at position. He will however add great depth to a position of need
Posted by Sonny G
Houston, TX
Member since May 2009
508 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 11:14 am to
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Agree totally, Thats where he's going to have to contribute. In my original post, im just seeing players ahead of him that are more advanced at this stage. Both in this signing class and whats already there in Davenport,Brockers,Downs, now copeland, and with Johnson and Johnson in 11, its going to be a log jam at that position.

Therefore, thats the only reason i said "bust" (based on his recruiting rating) as i just dont see him standing out with quality at position and the youth at position. He will however add great depth to a position of need


I concede the point that DE is where Ego may stay. I'm just not sold that Brokers or Levingston will "pan out" at DT in the fall...

regardless you are right in that Ferguson will be a better DE than DT in the long run...no doubt!
This post was edited on 2/6/10 at 11:15 am
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1718 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 11:15 am to
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...I have another day job!

If you disagree with my assesment, just come out and say it...make your point about playing the squeeze...


i have a day job too. No im not trying to disagree with anything you have to say. Just really trying to get your opinion on why he's a prototype DE, besides running well...

By no means im hating my friend
Posted by Sonny G
Houston, TX
Member since May 2009
508 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 11:17 am to
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i have a day job too. No im not trying to disagree with anything you have to say. Just really trying to get your opinion on why he's a prototype DE, besides running well...

By no means im hating my friend


All is good!
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89528 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 11:21 am to
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regardless you are right in that Ferguson will be a better DE than DT in the long run...no doubt!



Not to change the subject dramatically, but did anyone else think that Copeland looked more comfortable/natural coming off of the end? I thought he was an aggressive and effective pass rusher off of the end, and still played the run very, very well. (I understand that Ferguson played against tougher competition at Hargrave than did Copeland.)

Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1718 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 11:27 am to
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I concede the point that DE is where Ego may stay. I'm just not sold that Brokers or Levingston will "pan out" at DT in the fall...

regardless you are right in that Ferguson will be a better DE than DT in the long run...no doubt


Oh no, i truly feel Ego is a pure DT.

I have no doubt Brockers can be a DT. Prolly do well at that spot.

Levingston, i mean he has to do what he can to try and stay on the field..

It just seems Chavis is going towards a smallish type of DE..If ferguson and Allen stay at DE, they will already be the only two DE's over 270..thats before they hit the weight program.

I just dont buy Allen is Matt Branch, a move to OL, with his athleticism wouldnt make sense to me. Whitworth started his career as TE at WM, but atleast played a year or two at Tackle.
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1718 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 11:37 am to
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I thought he was an aggressive and effective pass rusher off of the end, and still played the run very, very well. (I understand that Ferguson played against tougher competition at Hargrave than did Copeland.)


yes, i agree..Copeland seemed to have technique suited for both positions..he looked very good at both..Thats why i created a post the other day wanting his true weight..Ive read anything from 240-270...LSUsports.net has him on roster at 290????...lol..someone needs to weigh this kid..

I disagree bout hargrave playing good competition..Them boys they play against are 2-a level at best..Fork Union is their equal, but its a bunch of prep school white boys they play..I CECP'd at a high school when i moved here, and we sent a boy there..Its not what u think..Its Ivy league boys they play against.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30244 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 12:10 pm to
What I meant about Ego has basically redshirted is that he has already played a year after high school.

I understand that he's got all his eligibility left.

I am just saying that he has matured for a year, just like a redshirt would.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 12:10 pm to
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Ego to stay at DE at LSU?

You have to admit he would make a good O-lineman.
Posted by SouthBayTiger
Rolling Hills, California
Member since Dec 2009
229 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by tiger41
pineville
Member since Aug 2007
66 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 1:38 pm to
The 3 -4 is definite possibility with EGO; but he could also play outside LB
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61279 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 1:58 pm to
If he's really 270 right now, I say he ends up at DT. Plus, one website lists him at 4.9, not 4.6.

Eventually settles in at DT IMO.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89528 posts
Posted on 2/6/10 at 7:53 pm to
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The 3 -4 is definite possibility with EGO; but he could also play outside LB


A 6'3", 272 pound OLB? Really?
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13434 posts
Posted on 2/7/10 at 12:12 am to
How is Aghayere looking on the depth chart?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89528 posts
Posted on 2/7/10 at 12:35 am to
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How is Aghayere looking on the depth chart?



Dandy Don has him behind Pep Levingston at LDE.

There has been talk of either or both of Levingston and Brockers moving inside, leaving only 3 veteran DEs - Montgomery, Aghayere and Mingo (and I'm assuming Mingo doesn't go back to OLB), with Aghayere presumably starting, at least in Spring ball.

ETA: Checked the official roster after I posted this - I forgot Chase Clement and Bennie Logan as veteran (Logan, albeit a RS year), scholarship DEs. All of the guys listed above are still listed as "DE" on the official roster.

The only scholarship veteran listed as a "DL", without specifying "DT", or "DE" is Josh Downs.
This post was edited on 2/7/10 at 12:40 am
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