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re: can LSU continue to ignore
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:45 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:45 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Spencer Ware?
and 5 other guys spread over 15 years?
2 who were the fastest guys in the state (Holiday & Brazil)
Carey #1 player in the state.
and 5 other guys spread over 15 years?
2 who were the fastest guys in the state (Holiday & Brazil)
Carey #1 player in the state.
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:03 pm to Lester Earl
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Spencer Ware?
5'10"
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and 5 other guys spread over 15 years?
Like I said, off the top of my head. I'm not going to mine 15 years of rosters.
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2 who were the fastest guys in the state (Holiday & Brazil)
Which compensated for their lack of height
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Carey #1 player in the state.
Despite being short.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:04 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Do me a favor, Lester Earl. List the short players from Louisiana that LSU didn't recruit who went on to significant college success.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:22 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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5'10"
Ware wasn't undersized. He weighed damn near 225 or so.
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Like I said, off the top of my head. I'm not going to mine 15 years of rosters.
Im not saying they never do. But offering the fastest player in the state or the #1 player in the state is pretty safe, even if the guy is slightly undersized.
Brazil, Mathieu, and Magee were not terribly undersized. All are in the 5'9" range. Usually rare for a CB, but at RB, its about the size you want back there.
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Do me a favor, Lester Earl. List the short players from Louisiana that LSU didn't recruit who went on to significant college success.
Hard to say exactly who wasn't recruited because of their height, or who flat out just wasn't developed enough athletically at the time.
Some River Parish guys: Darius Reynaud, Demaris Johnson, Jericho Nelson?
Mike Wallace?
Tony Bua?
Chris Brown?
dunno. Id have to look around.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:43 pm to Lester Earl
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Mike Wallace?
6' = As tall as Odell Beckham
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Tony Bua?
Meh
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Chris Brown?
Who?
You basically reinforced my point. If a player is good enough, the LSU staff will look past his height. It's not like we passed up on Zach Thomas and Darren Sproles.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:49 pm to GhostofJackson
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What good defenses has he done well against?
yep...
Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:54 pm to muddbone
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And is now a top 10 RB
I dont see him listed as a top 10 RB anywhere...
And you asked what does he have to prove? A lot. Every year LSU has guys that are under the radar type players that go to camp and dominate. And they end up with an offer. And most of those guys make a significant impact at LSU.
If he wants an LSU offer, going to camp is his best bet to get 1. By going to camp, you force the staff to watch you. You make them notice you. And it gives them the opportunity to be kinda hands on with the players. They get to see how coachable this kid is and how responds to criticism.
And like other people said, the state of LA is always loaded. We pass on really good players every single year. Its just how it is. You cant take everybody. You have to decide who you want. And, LSU has a few other guys ahead of Bussey. With a few of them in state as well. Just how it is.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 3:59 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Mike Wallace was about 170 coming out. Rail thin. LSU didn't give him a sniff.
Chris brown played at OKla. Among other things, had a 1200 yard season and scored 42 career TDs.
Chris brown played at OKla. Among other things, had a 1200 yard season and scored 42 career TDs.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:01 pm to muddbone
If he really wants to play at LSU, he should go to camp and get his offer like Russell Gage did.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:22 pm to Lester Earl
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Mike Wallace was about 170 coming out. Rail thin. LSU didn't give him a sniff.
Beckham was 165. Mike Wallace was also rated as a 2-star. There was more to LSU passing on him than being small. He was a late bloomer. We missed him, but he wasn't exactly a guy that was blowing the doors off of the state.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:22 pm to JakeFromStateFarm
please don't compare apples to oranges . the 2 don't compute
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:40 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Shyrone Carey
Trindon Holiday
Tyrann Mathieu
Spencer Ware
Jeryl Brazil
Terrence Magee
Shyrone did nothing in college. Trindon was good because speed is still a major component in college, and now is just a returner because everyone is fast in the NFL. Mathieu played running back? News to me. Spencer Ware is a bulldozer. Brazil did what for LSU again? Magee is like Ware, thick and powerful.
And also, Bussey is injury prone. He's been hurt like 3 times in the past couple years. Never anything so bad he can't recover in a few weeks, but not a good sign.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:56 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Beckham was 165
he was 183 on the official roster as a FR.
he caught 41 passes as a FR, he couldnt do that at 165.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:22 pm to GhostofJackson
In his defense
Shyrone was never the same after he got hurt and...
The loose sod in tiger stadium really didn't help his style
Nor did that experiment with him at WR
Still if UT admissions office doesn't screw up......he's never a tiger
Kinda nice to see how shy turned out as a group!
Shyrone was never the same after he got hurt and...
The loose sod in tiger stadium really didn't help his style
Nor did that experiment with him at WR
Still if UT admissions office doesn't screw up......he's never a tiger
Kinda nice to see how shy turned out as a group!
Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:28 pm to choupiquesushi
plus they put too much weight on him
Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:39 pm to Lester Earl
Lester I wasn't gonna go there
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:12 am to I20goon
I haven't seen the kid play, but there are certain positions that just have a lot of competition depending on the cycle. Rbs and athletes seem to be very strong in LA and every year a kid that could lay for lsu goes somewhere else because there isn't a need. There will be very talented wrs that don't end up at LSU because this class is loaded. You can't knock either party, it happens.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:57 am to muddbone
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please don't compare apples to oranges . the 2 don't compute
No what doesn't compute is you thinking the kid is too good to go to camp at LSU and earning a offer. If he wants it he will go. Simple as that.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:29 am to Lester Earl
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he was 183 on the official roster as a FR.
He was listed at 165 as a recruit, which is the period when we're talking about. Feel free to go find Wallace's weight his freshmen year. It won't change my point. If you are slight, LSU will still sign you if you are good enough to compete.
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he caught 41 passes as a FR, he couldnt do that at 165.
Mike Wallace caught his first 12 passes as a junior. Again, it supports my point that LSU didn't "not recruit" Wallace because of his size.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 7:40 am
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:33 am to GhostofJackson
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Shyrone did nothing in college
He did struggle, which was a shame.
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Trindon was good because speed is still a major component in college, and now is just a returner because everyone is fast in the NFL.
He has an elite skill that makes up for his severe lack of size.
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Mathieu played running back? News to me
No, I was just listing undersized players that LSU signed. Sarcasm noted
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Spencer Ware is a bulldozer. Brazil did what for LSU again? Magee is like Ware, thick and powerful.
I'm not even sure what you're being argumentative about anymore. I think you must have completely missed the point I was making.
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