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re: 2015, 2016, and 2017 LSU Basketball Recruiting
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:43 pm to Open Your Eyes
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:43 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Recruiting has nothing to do with what was left by the previous coach.
Hard to convince recruits to come and play for an awful team. The state of the team and program is something that recruits care about. You're wrong.
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So what has Johnny jones done exceptionally well with what was left to him?
How can anyone not say that his first year wasn't far beyond expectations......
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 7:44 pm
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:55 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Recruiting has nothing to do with what was left by the previous coach.
It does if the previous coach didn't recruit well. Johnny had to hit the ground running to fill up the roster after returning to Baton Rouge. It's pretty clear that Jones has upgraded the level of play since Trent's reign.
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It's funny, Hickey was a pretty damned good defensive player his freshman year. So what happened?
He continued to be a good defensive guard considering his physical limitations.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:24 pm to tigers32
Hickey was never a good defender. He just had high steal numbers. He got steals because he is quick and gambles similar to what Iverson did back in the day. Hickey was never gonna shut down a quality guard. Just like Mickey needs major work on post D. High block totals but those are due to him helping out on D. He got schooled numerous times on the block and was lost in rotations and closing out a ton.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:54 pm to oauron
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Hard to convince recruits to come and play for an awful team. The state of the team and program is something that recruits care about.
Becoming less and less true every year, especially in basketball.
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You're wrong
The #1 pg in the country just signed with SMU. Consensus top 20 players signed with teams like unlv and seton hall. But yea, go ahead and keep living in your alternate universe.
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How can anyone not say that his first year wasn't far beyond expectations......
Exceedingly easily. No significant improvement from previous year's record. No postseason at all when previous season ended in NIT. Anyone that says that is "exceptionally well" and "far beyond expectations" needs to examine the possibility of raising their expectations and stop settling for mediocrity.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:02 pm to Open Your Eyes
You aren't exactly new to td.... I assume you realize this is the only thread available where it hasn't been a shite show.
Do us all a favor, complain on the rant.
Do us all a favor, complain on the rant.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:02 pm to tigers32
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It does if the previous coach didn't recruit well.
The 2 are not related at all.
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Johnny had to hit the ground running to fill up the roster after returning to Baton Rouge.
Jones' reputation is that of a good recruiter. He was given ample opportunity to prove that as soon as he got to Lsu, and that is somehow a bad thing?
You're essentially arguing he was put at a disadvantage by being able to fill a team with "his players" faster than if he had inheritied a full team of leftovers. Why is that?
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It's pretty clear that Jones has upgraded the level of play since Trent's reign.
That's not true at all. It's clear that, on paper, the talent on the roster has been upgraded. The end results of the first 2 seasons lean much more towards showing the level of play to be at the status quo rather than a clear upgrade.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:05 pm to Open Your Eyes
Can you please take this to the rant
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:11 pm to BigEdLSU
I'm done. This guy just wants to argue.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:28 pm to BigEdLSU
Jordan Cornish committed to UNLV today. Did Johnny just not like his game?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:11 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Becoming less and less true every year, especially in basketball.
To go with your other point, let me know when the blue bloods and top programs aren't dominating recruiting.
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The #1 pg in the country just signed with SMU. Consensus top 20 players signed with teams like unlv and seton hall. But yea, go ahead and keep living in your alternate universe.
All 3 of those programs are in better states than LSU was in 2012. I don't see how 15% of top 20 recruits going to good not great schools is a solid argument for your position.
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No significant improvement from previous year's record. No postseason at all when previous season ended in NIT. Anyone that says that is "exceptionally well" and "far beyond expectations" needs to examine the possibility of raising their expectations and stop settling for mediocrity.
This is just insane. The team had much worse talent and LSU was picked 11th in the SEC. The fact they ended .500 in the SEC (which was an improvement over the previous year) was a miracle.
And that'll be last reply about this.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:35 pm to oauron
Reports out that LSU is trying to get Sophomore SF from Univ of Houston, Danuel House.
He is a very good 6'7" SF who would fit in nicely. Has averaged 12.4pts as a freshman and 13.6 as a sophomore.
He is a very good 6'7" SF who would fit in nicely. Has averaged 12.4pts as a freshman and 13.6 as a sophomore.
This post was edited on 5/21/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:40 pm to SouthOfSouth
that would be a nice pick up. is he eligible immediately or has to sit a year?
Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:44 pm to SouthOfSouth
Very athletic if I remember and we should also watch Tashawn Thomas, who went to Oklahoma, as he has already put in a waiver to play immediately and is in the same scenario as House.
Wonder if he could be a tall SG for us.
Wonder if he could be a tall SG for us.
Posted on 5/21/14 at 2:06 pm to specchaser
I'm not sure. I would think he would have to sit but Im not 100%
He only shot 33% from three point line but Im not sure. I haven't watched any film on him. He was given waiver to leave as long as he didn't go to a Texas school, AAC school, or a team that will face Houston in the next 2 years.
Not sure if waiver allows a player to immediately play or what.
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Wonder if he could be a tall SG for us.
He only shot 33% from three point line but Im not sure. I haven't watched any film on him. He was given waiver to leave as long as he didn't go to a Texas school, AAC school, or a team that will face Houston in the next 2 years.
Not sure if waiver allows a player to immediately play or what.
This post was edited on 5/21/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 5/21/14 at 2:24 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Not sure if waiver allows a player to immediately play or what.
Waiver would allow immediate playing time, and that would be likely a requirement for his coming here.
Posted on 5/21/14 at 2:43 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Not sure if waiver allows a player to immediately play or what.
That waiver just allows him to transfer but with those limitations. He would have to send an appeal waiver to the NCAA to allow him to play immediately due to the new coach. I think they normally allow them to play right away in this circumstance
Posted on 5/21/14 at 3:36 pm to GeauxAggie972
Yeah Danuel House would be a really solid pickup. Athletic and long scorer with a decent shot.
I was hoping that if he picked LSU (or any school really) that he could get a waiver to play immediately due to the coaching change. But it's 50-50 whether he could play right away or have to sit a year.
I was hoping that if he picked LSU (or any school really) that he could get a waiver to play immediately due to the coaching change. But it's 50-50 whether he could play right away or have to sit a year.
Posted on 5/21/14 at 3:39 pm to ATXtiger1895
SouthOfSouth
Have you heard of any transfer 1 or 2 guards that have been linked to LSU yet? With losing Hickey i still think LSU needs to pick up a grad transfer combo guard or something along the lines of that.
Have you heard of any transfer 1 or 2 guards that have been linked to LSU yet? With losing Hickey i still think LSU needs to pick up a grad transfer combo guard or something along the lines of that.
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:27 pm to ATXtiger1895
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SouthOfSouth
Have you heard of any transfer 1 or 2 guards that have been linked to LSU yet? With losing Hickey i still think LSU needs to pick up a grad transfer combo guard or something along the lines of that.
I haven't heard any, but that doesn't mean it's not in the works. I assumed LSU would try to find a transfer guard that can play year 1. Still think that's possible.
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I was hoping that if he picked LSU (or any school really) that he could get a waiver to play immediately due to the coaching change. But it's 50-50 whether he could play right away or have to sit a year.
The fact that his transfer rules included "Could not face Houston in 2 years" makes me think he can play immediately. If he would have to sit, then it should say 3 years because he has 2 years of eligibility left plus possible redshirt.
This post was edited on 5/21/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:33 pm to SouthOfSouth
Are we feeling pretty good about our chances with House?
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