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Bike Trainer recommendations

Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:17 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:17 am
Looking to purchase a bike trainer. Looking for a good starter one.
Don't want to spend a bunch of money until I am sure I will use it consistently.
Indoor training for sprint triathlons mostly.
Posted by CXSteve
Member since Oct 2012
855 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:25 am to
I'd recommend the best smart trainer you can budget.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:16 am to
quote:

I'd recommend the best smart trainer you can budget.


So for a starter, you should totally drop $1200 on a Kickr.

I'm actually selling my smart trainer right now if interested . This isn't meant to be a sales pitch, just joking. I'm going back to a dumb trainer after not using erg mode and not needing the "power" reading since I have a power meter already. Rather the simplicity and not having to Bluetooth connect and stuff.

Good starter trainer is on PerformanceBike . com. TravelTrac mag+ trainer for like $99. It does max out at about 350 watts. You may not have a gauge for what that power is, but it's a pretty decent amount of resistance for long term riding. Not all that high for intense sprints. I outgrew it when I needed 500+ watt intervals, but it worked well for me for 2 years. You could easily spend over 1k though if you wanted to.

Higher cost provides low noise, higher resistance, heavier flywheel which makes it feel like the road more, and smart features.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18286 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:16 am to
I have the kinetic fluid trainer and I love it. You can probably find one used on Craiglist.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:28 am to
Road Machine is what I plan to get when I offload my Tacx Vortex. But that's about $300. Finding used is less, but it has to be local. Shipping is a beast.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9344 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:48 am to
I second the Kurt kinetic fluid trainer, you can get the smart version for more money or just use the trainer road app and an ant+ dongle on your phone
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:50 am to
Thanks for all the suggestions.

I'm older, so my goals are not overly ambitious. Just want to be comfortable doing the sprint tri's. I'm not planning on being on the podium.

And next summer want to go on a bike trip in maritime Canada averaging about 45 miles per day for a week.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38692 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:56 am to
Riding a bike indoors has to be one of the most mind numbing things ever. I have a dumb trainer I use maybe once a year when the weather is horribly cold and wet. Hopefully you are getting out on the road to ride and just using the trainer as a supplement.
Posted by CXSteve
Member since Oct 2012
855 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:16 pm to
Smart trainer running zwift makes indoor training pretty good. Unless Im doing long weekend ride or able to get out to Mountain bike trails I've done most of my riding with Wahoo Kickr last 2 years.

Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:07 pm to
I did all but 2 rides on my trainer while training for my Ironman. 4.5 hours on a trainer is brutal mentally. But that 112 miles was easy on race day. Trainer time is more efficient than road time if you are actually training for something. For a sprint tri, an hour on weeknights is a good workout that is totally manageable.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18286 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Riding a bike indoors has to be one of the most mind numbing things ever. I have a dumb trainer I use maybe once a year when the weather is horribly cold and wet.


I love mine. I'll put a TV show on and a 1 or 2 hour ride flies by.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59522 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:55 pm to
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Smart trainer running zwift makes indoor training pretty good

This actually seems fun and is about the only way I could do it. I can't do a stationary bike to save my life now.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38692 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 11:23 pm to
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Trainer time is more efficient than road time if you are actually training for something.


All I can say is wow..... You're a better man than me. Why would you do rides on a trainer vs outside? Kids?
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 6:15 am to
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Why


One reason I can think of for me is that I am moving to a place where I’m going to have to drive to ride. Adding 15 to 20 minutes each way would dampen the frequency of riding.

The roads are very steep.

quote:

4.5 hours on a trainer is brutal mentally. But that 112 miles was easy on race day.


I was hiking up Stone Mountain one day and saw this woman running and carrying sandbags (large ones) up the mountain. She passed us on her way down, then was going up again.

Later we ran into her at the bottom and talked to her about what she was doing. She was doing Spartan type races and very long distance events.

She had been up and back 6 times. About 12 miles total and there are 2 areas that are incredibly steep especially at the pace she was going.

So I assumed she went up and down that many times for strength and endurance. Her answer was "Only partly. I do it that many times to prepare myself mentally for the boredom of long distance races."

Something I've always remembered.

And she was a beast. In a hot way.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 7:47 am
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:06 am to
Kid, so in weeknights its my only time after hes asleep. Plus a lot of bad weather and I had to get the training in. No ability to say Ill just skip. And after that, the 2.5 hours max Ill need for 1/2 IM distance seems like nothing. Can get up at 5 on saturday and knock it out before family is up. Never had close calls per se, but have seen too many aggressive drivers. Making a full time switch to indoors with a few rides to check my handling skills before races.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Road Machine


I see the Road Machine 2.0 on Amazon for about $320 or so.
LINK
As I understand things, it is not "smart."

But there is another Kinetic Machine LINK
that is less money and appears to be a "smart" trainer.

Any thoughts?
Posted by floordulee
St. Amant
Member since Oct 2009
113 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 7:03 am to
I’d suggest getting a direct-drive trainer like the Cyclops Silencer if you’re going to use it in an area where other members of your household hang out. Just put on your rear wheel when you want to ride outside and you’re ready to roll.
Posted by jguidroz
South Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1650 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 3:09 pm to
I've gone from a fluid trainer, to a Kickr, and now do all my indoor training on a Feedback Sports Omnium. Granted I have a power meter on each bike I use with it, but it has plenty of resistance for the training I do. It's also very portable and works well for warming up/cooling down at races.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 6:59 pm to
How is the omnium? Had a chance to buy a new one for 250 last weekend. But wasnt sure about the resistance capabilities. Sold my tacx vorex this morning and got an Elite Turbo Muin direct drive coming in. Going to one bike and one set of wheels and didnt want to buy an extra trainer wheel. Didnt need smart/erg as I just wasnt using the feature on the tacx. Plus I hated using my phone to adjust resistance.

The Cycloos silencer looked good, but its not easy to find as its discontinued. Every other direct drive is smart and therefore crazy expensive.
Posted by jguidroz
South Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1650 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 9:22 pm to
I really like it. It doesn't wear tires out as fast since it has two rollers as compared to a fluid trainer. And with the number of tires I have laying around, I have no reason to buy dedicated trainer tires. For the years I had my Kickr, I gradually shifted away from ERG mode just to resistance, and eventually it just made no sense to keep it.

Resistance wise with the Omnium, it just comes down to gearing, cadence, and tire choice. It's obviously not a good platform to do standing sprints on as you're removing weight off the rear wheel and losing some resistance, but for everything else, I find it's a great training platform.
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