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Are steroids just now a free game and not interfered with any longer?

Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:27 pm
Posted by chili pup
Member since Sep 2011
2064 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:27 pm
No longer against the law? There is a ton of fitness females juicing up.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 5:30 pm
Posted by DrDenim
By the airport
Member since Sep 2022
441 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:51 pm to
Huh? Anabolic steroids are still very much against the law, provided you obtain them illegally. The changes, if you even want to call them that, are that now there seems to be so many options for legally obtaining anabolic steroids that you can self admin under physician guidance and so long as you have an official prescription you aren't breaking any laws. I'm no expert, but I believe there are many steroids that US physicians can legally prescribe for legitimate reasons, you just have to find a physician that chooses to work in that area, but the internet has shrunk the world and people wanna make a buck, so where there's a will, there's a way.

Now when it comes to rules for competition, that's the same mess of bullshite it's always been. What organization is setting the rules, how do they test, NO, how do they 'really' test? Wait a minute, do they test? That part hasn't changed much, those that use gear and are smart are always half a step ahead of the testers, and depending on what the organization is, it's anywhere from "we care a lot and our testing shows it" all the way to "we kinda act like we care, but you can tell we don't give a shite", and there's still untested competitions of course.
Posted by chili pup
Member since Sep 2011
2064 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:59 pm to
Clamp down on the use.
Posted by DrDenim
By the airport
Member since Sep 2022
441 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:19 pm to
I guess I'm confused as to why you are asking. What specific populations of people are you referring to? Any specific sports federations/organizations? Are we talking bodybuilding here, Crossfit, UFC, NCAA, International stuff like the Olympics?

"Fitness females" makes me think you're referring to social media "influencers", and if so, aint nobody regulating that shite, all they gotta do is find the right doctor, if they so choose, and get diagnosed with muscle wasting disease by some practitioner (nowadays people have ever expanding options to nurse practitioners and PAs that run longevity/aesthetics clinics that just add to the pile of MDs/DOs that have been doing this for decades) and then you get some anavar or whatever and treat your muscle wasting disease that Dr. Cloaca at the strip mall says you have 'wink wink' Right? It's not that new.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 6:25 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30982 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:31 pm to
Only testosterone and maybe deca can be prescribed but deca is almost impossible to get. Used to get var, no more

Can get peptides too
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30982 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

Clamp down on the use.


Why not just let people do what they want? Last thing I want is more government

Pretty shitty take
Posted by DrDenim
By the airport
Member since Sep 2022
441 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:56 pm to
Really? That's it?

frick, I thought wrong then, I thought there were 3 or 4 readily available anabolics that anyone who found the right physician (older, Hungarian dude working out of the back of an ebay dropshipping office in Ft. Lauderdale) could have ordered up for them under the general goals of "age-reversal" or "longevity medicine".

Sad country we live in when you look at it in certain ways. I grew up in an era when D.A.R.E. would send a cop to our school and he'd tell us that weed, LSD, heroin, crack, cocaine, crystal meth, pcp, AND steroids would all kill you dead....likely immediately....just like Len Bias, what a crock of shite.

If I can pickle myself to death in my single wide trailer with handles of Kentucky Deluxe then I should also be able to pickle myself with Winstrol until I attempt to bench press my single wide and die by getting crushed by it.
Posted by Old Swole
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2024
38 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:32 pm to
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I should also be able to pickle myself with Winstrol until I attempt to bench press my single wide

been there, done that, got the t-shirt
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35046 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:40 pm to
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been there, done that, got the t-shirt


quote:

Old Swole


Legit
Posted by SimonSlick
Member since Oct 2007
3807 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:45 pm to
I have a script, but I get my test cypionate online. No prescription necessary. You can get any steroid from the website and everything is legit. I've used them for years.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30982 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:46 pm to
Most steroids were never approved in the US for humans. Across the world yea but not here. I think only deca, test, var, anadrol if I remember correctly. Rest were vet or human grade from other countries

And yea it’s kind of stupid people can get butt implants or other muscle implants but can’t use steroids. Thanks to senator hatch and then senator biden.

It was one of those “we have to do something, even if it’s not the right thing” kind of deals after the Ben Johnson fiasco in 88 Olympics

He’ll just last year they made it stupid hard to get peptides even if you have a script

I get insurance shouldn’t cover this but shouldn’t get a feeling charge just for possession either
Posted by DrDenim
By the airport
Member since Sep 2022
441 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:42 pm to
I'm not even a steroid user, very likely never will be one, but after watching the Bigger, Stronger, Faster doc years ago I started to see them differently and I dropped that youthful, naive, moralistic viewpoint of them. I'm sure my "argument" is logically unsound but I don't care, I go back to it time and time again, but in a nation where alcohol and cigarettes are legal to anyone of age and the attitude is "These are adults who know the risk, and they are ultimately responsible for themselves, so let em do what they want, it's not like this stuff is ILLEGAL" I just don't see how the hell anabolic steroids are illegal. I should be able to sign a waiver and a release of liability and do what I damn well please. Goddammit I wanna squat a 1000 pounds! I'm old! I need it! I'm running out of time!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30982 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:47 pm to
Pretty much my view too
Posted by Old Swole
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2024
38 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:09 pm to
Only things wrong with steroids are the zits and the tits.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2229 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

No longer against the law? There is a ton of fitness females juicing up.


I do think it more common and accepted for women to do PEDs, which is good for them, but there are way more men juicing. Super swole men just don't stand out as much and we have a bias that sometimes allows use to say things like that dude just works out really hard, or they have great genetics.

I generally don't care either way but will admit it can be somewhat annoying when fitness competitors and models say they don't use PEDs, only their list of sponsored supplements.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5714 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:28 am to
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the zits and the tits.


If you do it correctly, you wont get the tits. Now, the zits I dunno.

I take what would be considered "steroids" and my doctor is aware of it. He gave me a script for test. I even told him I was on it before he prescribed it to me, and he still gave me one. Mainly because when we did my blood work, my levels were right dab in the middle of the normal range for my age, which told him I wasnt over doing it. I've been taking test for over two years, and I get blood work done twice a year to make sure nothing is getting fricked up from it. They can be completely safe if you do it right. Problem is, some people who obtain them illegally do not go to their doctor and tell them so that their doctor can monitor it and make sure they arent fricking themselves up.

Thats just my take.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11239 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:40 am to
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been there, done that, got the t-shirt




I was using an old t-shirt for a shop rag last weekend and my wife suddenly asked me "what are Olympus Labs?". I looked down and realized it was one of the shirts a ugl sent a friend with an order about 10 years ago.
Posted by PrezCock
Florida
Member since Sep 2019
598 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:50 am to
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It was one of those “we have to do something, even if it’s not the right thing” kind of deals after the Ben Johnson fiasco in 88 Olympics

He’ll just last year they made it stupid hard to get peptides even if you have a script


They also had to categorize Anabolic Steroids as a Narcotic, if I remember correctly. Which they are anything but.

They made it much harder to get HCG as well. Which is why clinics are prescribing Clomid now instead.

The government will do anything to make the male population weak and subservient. Easier to control a bunch of weak beta males than it is a bunch of strong (mind and body) alpha males.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30982 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:17 am to
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They also had to categorize Anabolic Steroids as a Narcotic, if I remember correctly. Which they are anything but.

They made it much harder to get HCG as well. Which is why clinics are prescribing Clomid now instead.

The government will do anything to make the male population weak and subservient. Easier to control a bunch of weak beta males than it is a bunch of strong (mind and body) alpha males.



i agree with you and yes, the FDA and DEA and medical community all testified that steroids did not meet any of the definitions required to be considered a controlled substance and sure as hell didnt meet any of the categories needed to be considered a schedule 3 narcotic. But Biden and mainly Hatch jumped up and down to get them banned, then hatch did the same thing with the dshea compliance act for supplements when the designer steroids and pro hormones like 1-AD, 4-AD and things like superdrol, pheraplex, epistane, halodrol etc all came out and you had the fricking baseball scandal

but ftr no advocating for the use of steroids more along the lines of.....I am a grown arse adult and me taking steroids does not in any way affect others, so i should be able to use them if I want. I do not play competitive sports, hell i dont even go to a gym, i lift in my garage. but any adult should be able to do what they want. why is it ok for a female that wants to be a man to get them prescribed no problem and no matter the age? why can women get plastic surgery, botox fillers, and all kinds of implants but a man....cant use any type of hormones?

its always....well we have to protect the integrity of sports, yet i have never seen anyone go to jail for using them in sports. if you dont want them in sports, then put in first offense 1 year suspension, 2nd offense 3 year suspension, 3rd offense life time ban for all the non Olympic sports

for olympic athletes, put in jail time and fines. not that hard. But everyday gym guy should be able to use wtf ever he wants

they will say...but think about the negative influence on the kids and society. 1) thats a parents job to parent, not the government's. 2) how is it any different than all the surgeries that those in hollywood have? 3) as far as health overall as a society...do we really think there will be enough users to make a dent and are we sure it wouldnt be balanced out with those using them to lose weight?

just liek if i go to the doctor and want mounjaro...i should be able to get it, no matter how little im overweight. insurance shouldnt cover it, but should be able to get that and any peptide i want. same with hgh

Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
9756 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:59 pm to
I'm asking for a shirt from my dude!
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