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Do you ever layup/hit into the rough intentionally for a softer lie?

Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31910 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:40 pm
I was thinking about this while practicing today. I’ve realized that I’m very comfortable with a wedge shot between 35-60 yds if it’s in a fluffy lie, but if it’s in the fairway or tight lie I’m toast, 50% chance of a chunk/thin shot. My two thoughts were

1. Try to never leave myself this shot, be closer or further when laying up

2. When I do need to layup or hit to this distance for whatever reason, try and hit it into the rough for a fluffier lie.

Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89846 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Do you ever layup/hit into the rough intentionally for a softer lie?


No.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5416 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:58 pm to
I did whenever I first started playing and didn't know yet that it's not a good idea to try to help the ball into the air with your irons/wedges. But also, when I first started playing, I was aiming for the golf course from the tee and I was lucky if I found my ball in the rough.

Those shorter shots that you mentioned, from the fairway, are now my favorite shot in golf. When I struggled with that distance, the majority of the time it was because I was decelerating just before the point of impact and trying to control the distance that way. I now use the clock system (not sure what the technical term is) and let my backswing dictate the distance on those shots. Mentally, it frees me up to attack the ball on the downswing and avoid those thin or chunky shots.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31910 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:24 pm to
That’s a goood approach. I absolutey know how to hit the shot, and I can do it very well, I’m sure it’s mental I just have to find a way to be confident over the shot.

Yesterday a was in the fairway on 17 56yds from the green on a par 5, +5 on my round, shooting in the 70’s looking good. Chunked my shot, skulled the next one into a lake, got up and down for a double, then bogeyed 18 to shoot 80 on the number
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:28 pm to
If the rough is healthy, but short, I often prefer it. That is often the case at Oakwing and Links on the Bayou. The Fall can get dicey when the rough thins out letting the ball fall down to the ground.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31910 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:31 pm to
Ah see I’m in north Texas. The fairways here are about to resemble the concrete in my driveway
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
209 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:33 pm to
50% chance of duffing off a fairway lie at 50 yards aren't very good odds. I'd get a lesson rather than hoping I hit it in to the rough and the ball somehow sits on top of a nice fluffy lie.

I get the sentiment. I've only recently dialed in my wedges to where I feel confident that I won't chunk or thin a 50 yarder. Before that I distinctly remember laying up to try to get 100-110 yds to the green cause that was my smooth easy gap wedge shot distance.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31910 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:34 pm to
50% is an exaggeration, but it definitely happens too much for my skill level.

Anyway, stop giving me swing advice people I asked a specific question
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9119 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:42 pm to
No.

If you continue to chunk shot shots, it could be your bounce on the wedges.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31910 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:46 pm to
I actually have more of a thinning issue than a chunking issue.

Damnit people, stop trying to diagnose my swing
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
4611 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:49 pm to
I have no sand game.....so if there is an option to aim away from a bunker but I may end up in some rough.....I chose rough every time.
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
209 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

50% is an exaggeration, but it definitely happens too much for my skill level.

Anyway, stop giving me swing advice people I asked a specific question


I feel ya. I put in some new wedges a year ago. I hit some nice easy swings trying them out and they just felt great. I was really dialed in from 50-120yds and on the best shots my ball was even spinning back a few feet. But my chipping was god awful. I never figured it was the wedges cause I figured every wedge would chip the same. A few months later I put my old wedges in the bag and never looked back.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15794 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:44 pm to
Not really.

My dispersion would put me in the tree line or OB if I tried to land in 7 yards of first cut.

Consider looking at some other options in wedges (bounce, grind, etc)
Posted by Random LSU Hero
2014 NFL Survivor Champion (17-0)
Member since Aug 2011
9433 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:50 pm to
I’ve aimed for bunkers before, and if I tug it a hair or catch a flyer it’ll end up good. It punched out for bunkers and if it ramps out on to the green then great
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
16138 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:34 pm to
If I was good enough to aim for the rough and hit it I’m probably good enough to hit a wedge on the green from 50 yards.


I get the idea, but it seems like you’re bringing in a lot of trouble potentially. OB, Awful lies, hanging tree branches, etc.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11658 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:04 pm to
I’m in the rough enough without intentionally hitting into the rough
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24649 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 5:31 am to
It’s all fun and games till you catch a flier out the rough.

I try to play boring golf. Drive, approach, 4 putt…. Move on to next hole.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53755 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:48 am to
Depends on alot but there are times I will hit away from areas that may give me a bad lie with a short shot into a green even if it means I am in the rough.

Not that I am intentionally hitting into the rough but if my miss right leaves he 40 into the in from hard pan with possible tree roots and missing left leaves me 40 yards out of the rough, I will try to miss left.

It's really just course course management.
Posted by BigGreenTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2022
252 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:15 am to
quote:

but if it’s in the fairway or tight lie I’m toast, 50% chance of a chunk/thin shot.


Do you have the correct bounce on your wedges for your swing? I had this same issue, then did a wedge fitting and it was night and day different. no more chunks.
Posted by TheLSUriot
Clear Lake, TX
Member since Oct 2007
1503 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:16 am to
I'm surprised no one questioned what bounce you are working with on that wedge. High bounce may not be doing you any favors on tight lies. As I understand it, preventing the leading edge from getting under the ball; very little margin for error. But is buttery out of the fluffy stuff.
Just a thought...
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