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Blade Technology

Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:19 pm
I'm semi interested in buying a set of true blades. Is there a significant difference between the new Mizunos and old ones?

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:38 pm to
No. Blades are blades. They're meant to be classic with no new technology. It really comes down to what you like look wise and what you're looking to spend. Regardless of which ones you get, you need to be a great ball striker with the 7 and above.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28589 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Regardless of which ones you get, you need to be a great ball striker with the 7 and above.


I recently bought a combo set of Mizuno's that has:

P-8 MP68
7-5 MP-58
4 MX-300








They came with a S300 shaft which may be too stiff for me. I'm going to hopefully get out to the range today to try them out. If they don't work for me I'm going to throw them up on eBay. I was intending to just flip the set but they are so sexy and feel so good In your hands that I'm considering replacing my game improvement clubs with them, as long as they perform decently for me.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:09 pm to
before you throw them on ebay, please holler. I may be interested.

I really need x100 but for the right price I can swap shafts and resell the old ones.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28589 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 2:38 pm to
Will do!
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:26 pm to
Look too at Titliest T-MB's and Hogan FW 15 irons if you want blade look but a little bit of help on the inside. Hogan just went to a factory direct business model and they are priced really well. About 650 for a set. Beautiful clubs. My buddy has a set and loves them.
Posted by Random LSU Hero
2014 NFL Survivor Champion (17-0)
Member since Aug 2011
9433 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:53 am to
Find a set of these... best blade ever made
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32439 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:08 am to
quote:

No. Blades are blades


Wrong, as usual
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
3392 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:14 am to
I have the Mp29s
IMO baddest mizuno iron set ever made.
Tiger had nike replicate them for him in the late 90s.
I love them.
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:00 pm to
The term "Blade Technology" is an oxymoron!

I'm just sayin...
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:27 pm to
Are you saying today's blades are different than the blades 10 years ago in terms of technology?
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 4:28 pm
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:27 am to
So, it sounds like I can buy some old blades and it won't make much of a difference.
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:40 pm to
Are you saying there is no difference between all the blades made in the last 10 years?

Processes change, new technology drives new methods, perimeter weighting has changed, all brands don't make blades the same,...

Not that there maybe worlds of difference, but to say no difference is a little disingenuous.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:59 pm to
There is no perimeter weighting with blades. No tungsten. Forging is the same. "Grain flow" is nothing but marketing. If there's a single improvement, you can claim quality control due to computers and techniques. But the head itself is no different from a technology standpoint. Again, it comes down to what you want to spend and looks. The sweet spot on the MP-18 is the exact same as the MP-67.

Same with the Titleist MBs. Look at the 660 vs the 718.





It's actually been a discussion recently of why these OEMs even have a two year cycle for their blades specifically because the tech doesn't change like a cavity backed players iron.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 3:14 pm to
Perimeter weighting may have been the wrong term, but the placement of weight / mass may not change inside a manufacturer (i.e. Titleist) but there have most definitely been changes in recent history. There is a reason the Ben Hogan Ft. Worth irons are considered to be one of the most forgiving blades ever.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 3:31 pm to
Hogans have always been "easy to hit". Remember the 1988 redlines?
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 3:38 pm to
Not particularly. You may have me beat here. I was 2 years old in '88
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 3:46 pm to
I was 1.

But those were a big deal. Really blew up the "Apex" brand.

My point with my original response is that a blade isn't about technology. And he can buy a 10 year old club and get the same exact results from a blade made today. The weight hasn't changed. The metal hasn't changed. The grooves haven't changed. The sole hasn't changed. Even the looks are extremely consistent. Now, if we go back 50 years, fine. Clubs are different. But I was assuming the OP simply wanted to know if a brand new set is worth triple the cost of a set from 10 years ago.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 4:32 pm to
I feel like you and I have been on the same page since this board started in every thread I've posted in.
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:44 am to
Ok SIAP I am a drunken typist,

Blades by definition are about simple shapes and balanced weight distribution that allows maximum playability ( adjustability that allows a gifted player to alter the position and loft of the clubface at impact)

So for all intents and purposes, the shaft is the area that you may want to tinker

As for ironheads the best for you are the ones that feel best to you....unless soneone is willing to pay you to play tbeir irons at which time it becomes about commas and zeros

I'm just sayin....

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