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Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:41 pm to
?

It's a really bad buy idk why you recommended it.

4 cores 4 threads and no hyperthreading for more money, you kind of screwed him.

Even if he is an Intel fanboy you gotta wait until you can get the 7700K at this stage of gaming.

I score 16,000 with a 7700K, double his score. Gaming has been maxing 4 threads for awhile now and add in no hyperthreading going forward it's rough to spend that much on it.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:01 am to
Your 1080 score must be low. My 1070 got 19,100
Posted by SpeedyNacho
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:31 am to
G sync'd
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:37 am to
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Even if he is an Intel fanboy you gotta wait until you can get the 7700K at this stage of gaming

Only fanboys here are you dude.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:09 am to
Man HBM2 really kept these cards priced too high. Hopeful it will show it's benefits in gaming next cycle, just non right now.

AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 Review Leaks Out – Liquid and Air Cooled Models Tested, Tries To Compete Against GTX 1080 FE With Over 300W Power Consumption










Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 8:25 am to
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With Over 300W Power Consumption



Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 8:30 am to
The Vega 56 appears to be the most intriguing card of hte lineup, especially given its performance compared to the GTX 1070.

Of course, this is all assuming you can get one depending on how fast miners frick up the pricing
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 8:51 am to
And you.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 8:52 am to
Well the liquid cooled Vega 64 ran out of stock before I even had a chance.

Last hope is BH Photo when they post theirs.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18233 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 8:55 am to
Yea I'm 100% going with a 1080 ti now. Baffling that AMDs highest end card is considerably slower than it, and around the same price too.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:22 am to
AMD pretty much said they weren't competing with the 1080ti.

The Vega 56 competes against the 1070, and the Vega 64 against the 1080.

The power difference is a little baffling though.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18233 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:26 am to
Isn't the MSRP for the Vega Liquid $699? That is directly competing with the 1080 ti
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:54 am to
$599, the pack bundle with 2 games is $699. They'll be sold separately soon enough.

Air 64 is $499. Air 1080tis are 699 and up so quite a big difference.
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
8561 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:55 am to
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The Vega 56 appears to be the most intriguing card of hte lineup


Ayy. I'm keeping my eye out for the AIB's. Should be a gem for us freesync users or those who are looking for one. Hopefully they can get up to 1600 mhz or so with a good oc. to make it more worthwhile for fury/x users.

The 64, eh, not so much.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18233 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:02 am to
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$599, the pack bundle with 2 games is $699. They'll be sold separately soon enough.


The bundle is a terrible value though. $599 is where that liquid needs to be even with the bundle

quote:

Air 64 is $499. Air 1080tis are 699 and up so quite a big difference


That's why I was only comparing the liquid and 1080 ti
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 11:04 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:05 am to
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The bundle is a terrible value though. $599 is where that liquid needs to be



Depends, if you want to upgrade your CPU the discount on a 1700X combo is solid.

I will be buying Wolfenstein 2 and it's my most anticipated game this fall so getting it for free instead of paying $60 is also nice.

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That's why I was only comparing the liquid and 1080 ti


Right, because it is most expensive. Air is the main comparison and what sells though so that is what really matters and it's significantly cheaper and thus is not competing with it really at all.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:12 am to
Yeah since I missed out on the liquid version by the time they are back in stock the AIB's will be out and I'll probably just go with one of them too.

The drivers are apparently a mess right now, bunch of issues. Hopefully by then those will be ironed out as well.
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
8561 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:13 pm to
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The drivers are apparently a mess right now


I'm not one holding out on miracle drivers, but something does seem very wrong.

Either something's not working on a software level or something is broken on the hardware level and we'll have to wait until a refresh to fix it. If it ever does. Vega is clocked 50+ percent faster, but only 30% more performance...

Why the huge IPC loss?
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
8561 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by FourThinInches
Dallas
Member since Apr 2012
1302 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:46 pm to
Heck yeah Vega is out!! Can't wait to upgrade from my 480 Red Devil once prices drop.
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