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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:27 pm to boXerrumble
Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:27 pm to boXerrumble
No one pumped about 4C/8T @ 4.2Ghz 15W mobile CPUs?
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:41 pm to LSU Coyote
I read the anandtech article yesterday morning. Interested in seeing their single threaded performance for everyday tasks. Excited to see some reviews when they release.
May finally jump on grabbing a thinkbook for once
May finally jump on grabbing a thinkbook for once
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:08 pm to bluebarracuda
I just bought a gaming notebook just for my apartment here in Texas during the week. Really impressed by this Dell Inspiron w/ i7 7700HQ / 1050 Ti. Using it mainly for indie games, D3 and PoE.
I'm hoping a refresh comes out while im inside my 30day return at Best Buy.
What is L4 cache? Serious question. What did I miss?
8th Gen Kaby Lake Refresh
I'm hoping a refresh comes out while im inside my 30day return at Best Buy.
What is L4 cache? Serious question. What did I miss?
8th Gen Kaby Lake Refresh
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The only differences between the Core i7 and Core i5 designs will be in cache size (Core i5 has 6MB, Core i7 has 8MB) and the clock speeds of the processors. All of them feature four true Kaby Lake cores with HyperThreading enabled to support 8 simultaneous threads in a notebook. Dual channel memory capable of speeds of 2400 MHz in DDR4 and 2133 MHz in LPDDR3 remain. The integrated graphics portion offers the same performance as the 7th generation designs, though the branding has moved from Intel HD Graphics to Intel UHD Graphics. Because Ultra.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:43 pm to LSU Coyote
Link to that reaching that at that wattage? Not calling you a liar, but it would be interesting for my bro who's looking for a lappy.
Vega 56 undervolting benchmarks put it close to the 64 when it does the same.
Can def tell that it's power limited.
This is for UH and others looking at vega.
I'd say their geometry output in real-world conditions continue. Fury/x all over again.
Vega 56 undervolting benchmarks put it close to the 64 when it does the same.
Can def tell that it's power limited.
This is for UH and others looking at vega.
I'd say their geometry output in real-world conditions continue. Fury/x all over again.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 5:31 pm to hoojy
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Link to that reaching that at that wattage? Not calling you a liar, but it would be interesting for my bro who's looking for a lappy.
Are you talking about the 15w Intel mobile CPUs? They're not out yet, but go to anandtech and you'll see the article on the front page
Posted on 8/22/17 at 5:32 pm to hoojy
Look at link, we don't have benchmarks yet.
I don't believe it but it's what's being advertised. We do have 15W 3.3GHz chips on mobile. Also it could be a 2 core thing, Intel's Turbo Boost 3.0. meaning not all 4 cores boost to 4.2 but the best 2.
I don't believe it but it's what's being advertised. We do have 15W 3.3GHz chips on mobile. Also it could be a 2 core thing, Intel's Turbo Boost 3.0. meaning not all 4 cores boost to 4.2 but the best 2.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 5:36 pm to LSU Coyote
I see. I'll just wait for reviews I guess. He wants something that will play FFXI easily and doesn't drain much power.
That or the new APU by AMD. Won't take much graphics, just sipping power while not running shitty.
That or the new APU by AMD. Won't take much graphics, just sipping power while not running shitty.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 6:01 pm to hoojy
I'll probably go Vega 56 AIB when they launch.
If I can ever find the $699 64 water cooled I'd grab it today otherwise I'll go 56 by then.
If I can ever find the $699 64 water cooled I'd grab it today otherwise I'll go 56 by then.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 6:28 pm to LSU Coyote
With all this mining shite, That 980ti is feeling better and better.
Though you still haven't shipped me that other cooler :)
Though you still haven't shipped me that other cooler :)
Posted on 8/22/17 at 6:39 pm to UltimateHog
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I'll probably go Vega 56 AIB when they launch.f
I want one too. Was building an away from home build but fckk I will never get one.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 6:41 pm to TigerRagAndrew
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With all this mining shite, That 980ti is feeling better and better.
Dude for $200, you got a deal. Even with the jacked up wire to blower.
I wish I still had that card esp since I wanted a spare rig recently. Oh well, enjoy.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:45 am to LSU Coyote
It's good to be making NAND right now, not so good to be buying
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DRAMeXchange, a division of TrendForce, reports that the NAND Flash market continued to experience tight supply in the second quarter. As a result, contract prices of various lines of NAND Flash products rose by 3% to 10% from the first quarter despite the seasonal headwinds. Going forward, NAND Flash suppliers are expected to post excellent revenue results in the third quarter due to small increases in contract prices of mobile products (i.e. eMMC and UFS) and SSDs. On the whole, 2017 will be a bumper year for the industry.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:51 am to LSU Coyote
A Quick Look At The High Bandwidth Cache Controller On AMD’s Radeon RX Vega
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AMD’s Vega GPU architecture brings many notable features to the table, but the one to find its way into Radeon chief Raja Koduri’s heart is HBCC – or “high-bandwidth cache controller”. In this article, we’re going to take a look at what HBCC is, why it offers no benefit right this moment, and talk about what it could offer in the future.
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But first, what is HBCC?
In a nutshell, HBCC is, as its “high-bandwidth cache controller” name gives away, a complement to the framebuffer (or “high-bandwidth cache” as AMD now calls it) that will treat the VRAM as a last-level cache, and some system memory as VRAM. If a resource is requested by the GPU, but it’s not currently in video memory, the memory pages relating to the data will be pulled in to Vega’s HBC (framebuffer) for quicker access, while unused pages will be flushed out.
In time, we could see application developers utilize this mechanic to maximize GPU efficiency in huge workloads. The pool of data that the Radeon Software will create is called the “HBCC Memory Segment” (HMS), and on our 32GB test PC, the minimum value that could be selected was ~11GB (max was ~24GB).
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HBCC is designed to be intelligent in how it manages the data, although at this point, it’s not entirely clear how data is handled today, or how it will be handled in the future. AMD talked at length about game developers who were in love with the idea of HBCC, so it could be that those same developers will have their own ideas on how to maximize the returns of HBCC. If it were possible to use a BIOS that disabled one of the HBM2 dies on RX Vega, this feature could probably be better tested. Currently, having a memory-starved card is going to be the only way you’ll notice a benefit from HBCC, and for many, memory is not going to be the limitation.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 10:21 am to LSU Coyote
Hope this is true. Coffee Lake pricing rumors.
Keep in mind that prices are in Canadian Dollars on the chart in the link.
Keep in mind that prices are in Canadian Dollars on the chart in the link.
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The Core i7-8700K is rumored to be a six-core / 12-thread CPU with a 3.8GHz base clock and a 4.7GHz maximum Turbo (4.3GHz all-core boost) for ~$380. The Core i7 8700 will sell for $320 with a 3.2GHz base clock, 4.6GHz maximum Turbo, and the same 4.3GHz all-core boost. The i5-8600K will be a six-core, six-thread CPU with a 4.3GHz max Turbo, 4.1GHz all-core Turbo, and 3.6GHz base clock for $266, while the i5-8400 is a six-core, six-thread chip at $185 with a 2.8GHz base, 4GHz maximum boost, and 3.8GHz all-core boost. All of these chips will also include an integrated GPU, while Ryzen doesn’t, though given that most desktop enthusiasts use discrete GPUs it’s not clear how much this will sway buying decisions.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:13 am to hoojy
Honestly not interested in the 8700K just because of PCIe lanes. WTF can you do with just 16 of them. Esp since everything is moving towards NVMe which take up x4 per drive.
This is my biggest gripe with Intel. Holding PCIe lanes hostage.
This is my biggest gripe with Intel. Holding PCIe lanes hostage.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:19 am to LSU Coyote
For real?
I haven't kept up much with it due to my stubbornness in keeping my 4770k 'til pcie4 and ddr5.
But ya, that's just gpu only.
I haven't kept up much with it due to my stubbornness in keeping my 4770k 'til pcie4 and ddr5.
But ya, that's just gpu only.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 12:29 pm to hoojy
Yeah, its really ghey.
So anyone running SLi/CFx almost gets pushed to the enthusiast platform by default. It makes AMD's Ryzen look really sweet for those needing the extra lanes.
So anyone running SLi/CFx almost gets pushed to the enthusiast platform by default. It makes AMD's Ryzen look really sweet for those needing the extra lanes.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 1:13 pm to LSU Coyote
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onestly not interested in the 8700K just because of PCIe lanes. WTF can you do with just 16 of them. Esp since everything is moving towards NVMe which take up x4 per drive.
This is my biggest gripe with Intel. Holding PCIe lanes hostage.
Yeah, it sucks having only 16 for GPU, but adding NVMe isn't a factor. Don't forget about the chipset's PCIe Lanes. Z270 provides 20 gen-3 lanes I believe. Right now, I'm probably losing about 2% performance or less with x8/x8 SLI 1080 Tis if gaming at 4K or otherwise really pushing them to the limit. It's not awful, but it's only going to get worse on PCIe 3.0 unless Intel stops with the less-than 32 lanes bullshite on any CPU under $600.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 1:17 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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Yeah, it sucks having only 16 for GPU, but adding NVMe isn't a factor. Don't forget about the chipset's PCIe Lanes. Z270 provides 20 gen-3 lanes I believe. Right now, I'm probably losing about 2% performance or less with x8/x8 SLI 1080 Tis if gaming at 4K or otherwise really pushing them to the limit. It's not awful, but it's only going to get worse on PCIe 3.0 unless Intel stops with the less-than 32 lanes bullshite on any CPU under $600.
Yeah the problem isn't now but say 2-3yrs from now.
CPU/MOBOs for me and a lot of others are 2-4yr investments. We know x16/x16 should be seeing some use in the coming years. At less I damn hope.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:20 pm to LSU Coyote
yeah I had my 4770K for 4 years. I should've gone to 2011v3 but decided to put more towards GPU. I'll probably end up again doing a GPU/CPU/Mobo upgrade all at once in the next 2-3 years.
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