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Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:48 am to
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:48 am to
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From what I can tell the OC is quite poor on them as well as the serious heat issues Intel has developed

It probably is but OC is not turbo really. OC is simply taking it pass factory safe limits. Base and Turbo do not always have an understandable relationship with each other. Not always this plot-able thing.
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It's getting bad, like real bad.

No comment. It wont be too bad on performance side but price/performance is retarded with Intel. Can't believe they aren't lowering prices.

The only thing that might help them this GEN is that on the server side, companies have already bought into their suites and programs. Like vPro requires a damn membership for support. That keeps ppl on Intel platforms for sometime.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:50 am to
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It probably is but OC is not turbo really.


Obviously. You mentioned turbo but they didn't release that so not much to say. If you want to speculate the max turbo gain so far is 1GHz which would put it at 3.9 still below TR turbo at 4.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 9:52 am
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:53 am to
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Obviously. You mentioned turbo but they didn't release that so not much to say. If you want to speculate the max turbo gain so far is 1GHz which would put it at 3.9 still below TR.

I thought you didn't like to speculate or go off rumors?

Only when it suites your narrative huh? Hmmm..

But yes, It probably will be around 3.8 - 4.0. Turbo 3.0 will probably hit 4.1-4.2 but that is only the best 2 cores, so not the whole package.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:55 am to
I said if YOU want to, you mentioned turbo, I don't because they didn't release it as I said.

TR turbo is 4.0 and XFR 4.1.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 9:57 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65791 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:04 am to
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The only thing that might help them this GEN is that on the server side, companies have already bought into their suites and programs. Like vPro requires a damn membership for support. That keeps ppl on Intel platforms for sometime.


The thing here though is ARM is taking over with serious traction in that market.

Intel will post its worst growth in its history this year for data centers.

Intel isn't just starting to lose their arse on the desktop CPU side, there is a lot more to it than that.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 10:07 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18232 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:04 am to
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600MHz slower than Threadrippers 12 core. Intel is just getting bent over


No point in comparing speeds on completely different architectures. When will we start seeing benchmarks for both of these chips?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:06 am to
I think videocardz has good reason.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:46 am to
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No point in comparing speeds on completely different architectures.

They are pretty far from each other since Intel has switched to shared L3 and larger L2, but still that is a little unsettling.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:51 am to
Please take time to check this article out. Pretty funny stuff.
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The Top 5 Worst Motherboards of All Time We have been reviewing motherboards here at HardOCP for about 20 years now. And in that time, many have been flush with horrible features and bugs of all kinds. Dan takes a stroll down a very painful memory lane and rehashes his top five..as instructed by his therapist. Let it out Dan...let it out.

HardOCP - Top 5 Worst MOBOS

Funny thing is I own the lesser version of the GIGABYTE 990FXA-UD7 with the GIGABYTE 990FXA-UD5. IMO it is the best AM3+ I’ve owned. Through the AM3/+ platform years I’ve owned at less 10-12 different ATX/mATX boards. Nothing really came close to the quality of that board.
I’ve thought about upgrading to the UD7 several times but never did, glad the trigger wasn’t pulled. But.. come to think of it, several ppl here had that board and loved it. So the article is a little confusing for me.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18232 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:00 am to
That's the only board I've been around for

All of the other ones are so old
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65791 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:12 am to
This is funny... PCGamer 12 hours ago: The Wolf Among Us and Tales of the Borderlands won't get new seasons any time soon

30 minutes ago, new season announced.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 11:13 am
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:13 am to
I remember that EVGA board but didn't own it. 2006 was my glory NewEgg cart dreamer years.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:14 am to
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30 minutes ago, new season announced.

That is funny.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:21 pm to
See, these are worst popular boards. Otherwise the entire list would be occupied by PC Chips.

Man, the list of mainstream mobo brands has shrunk a lot in the past decade. Most of the current ones were around back then but also competing with Abit, Shuttle, DFI, Jetway, Albatron, and many others I'm forgetting. ASUS was universally regarded as the best and a lot of people still think they are. Intel boards were prominent and mainstream, and Foxconn had its own brand alongside their Intel boards, and both were very good.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Otherwise the entire list would be occupied by PC Chips.



How can anyone forget the nightmare? Who bought PC Chips? Was it ECS right? Or some shtty company like that.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65791 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:11 pm to
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Edt: Are you maxing out Steam servers? Think 100MB/s max them out in my region.



I just got 31.3MB/s so 250Mbps, average was probably about 28MB/s though.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:24 pm to
I also can't push myself to buy Destiny 2 for PS4. Really have to buy it on PC just because it was always the FPS I wanted on PC.

But fckk that community will be gone within the 1st fckking month.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65791 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:36 pm to
I won't get it at all most likely.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25194 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:37 pm to
I'm getting it on pc
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18232 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:40 pm to
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Was it ECS right? Or some shtty company like that.


ECS supposedly had one of the best Z77 boards for OCing, but I haven't heard anything since
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