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re: OK done with the PS4 for now

Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by FourThreeForty
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Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:53 pm to
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Sony's first party



Sony and Microsoft's first party barely exist compared to Nintendo's army of IP.

The PS4 and XB etc. get so much 3rd party support that they don't really need any in house original IP to keep them afloat.

Which isn't a bad thing whatsoever, I'm just saying. It's apples to oranges.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:53 am to
Last of us is a PS3 game that was ported to the PS4.

Uncharted games are pretty shallow on actual gameplay, they are mostly just pretty presentation.

They are both Naughty Dog games (heavy on style, little substance)

You picked bad exclusives.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 12:54 am
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:45 am to
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You picked bad exclusives


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IAmReality


Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:58 am to
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Sony and Microsoft's first party barely exist compared to Nintendo's army of IP.

Sony puts out a higher number of good games than Nintendo does.

It's been that way since 2007.
Posted by GalvoAg
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:05 am to
Yeah Sony has been killing it towards the end of the PS3 forward, plus they get a lot of third party exclusives as well. Persona 5 and Yakuza 0 are my favorite games I've played this year.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:45 am to
Sony does not make games.
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:40 pm to
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Sony and Microsoft's first party barely exist compared to Nintendo's army of IP.
Nintendo may have the more famous IP but that hasn't translated to more games this and last gen

I'm glad BotW came out was great and another legit 3D Mario game is coming out. It's been long enough
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 2:42 pm
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 4:03 pm to
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Sony does not make games.

They own more studios and teams than Nintendo...
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 4:05 pm to
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Sony does not make games.



Posted by Doldil
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 4:09 pm to
I'm pretty sure DoUrden's steam library is bigger than the board's combined
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 4:46 pm to
They may own a studio that makes games, but they themselves do not.
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:41 pm to
Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Santa Monica etc. are all subsidiaries of SIE. So, yeah, Sony makes games.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:19 am to
No, they are developers signed to a contract with Sony. Sony does not own them, in the same way Microsoft did not own Bungie. Only a complete idiot would let a company like Sony or Microsoft literally own them.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:04 am to
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No, they are developers signed to a contract with Sony. Sony does not own them, in the same way Microsoft did not own Bungie. Only a complete idiot would let a company like Sony or Microsoft literally own them.
You're really splitting hairs. They're signed to contract with Sony, they only make games for Sony consoles, they report to Sony. They're a part of SIE.

And even if "Sony" isn't in their name, Sony Japan is a game developer that's produced games like Ape Escape, Knack, and all of Ueda's games.

Sony makes games.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:55 am to
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No, they are developers signed to a contract with Sony. Sony does not own them, in the same way Microsoft did not own Bungie. Only a complete idiot would let a company like Sony or Microsoft literally own them.



At first, I thought it was just an elaborate troll. Nah, you're just dumb.

Sony owns the IPs, product, physical offices, and assets of each studio. They even own the IPs for several non-first party studios. Sony literally owns over 15 studios across the world. They are not contracted, they employ them. There's literally no difference between Sony owned studios and Nintendo owned studios.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by The Quiet One
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:31 am to
There are a few studios that Sony is contracted with that they don't necessarily "own"; Kojima Productions would be a recent example.

But Naughty Dog is straight up Sony. "Naughty Dog...Founded by Andy Gavin and Jason Rubin in 1984 as an independent developer, the studio was acquired by Sony Computer Entertainment in 2001."
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:42 am to
So in other words, I'm partially right and calling me dumb over it makes you look a mental retard screaming at the top of your lungs "HORIZON ZERO DAWNNNNNNNN"

Not to mention Naughty Dog being owned by Sony would certainly make them look worse in my eyes. So if Sony goes under, which ain't happening, Naughty Dog just stops making games? Sounds like they got a shitty deal.

That's the whole reason I've been questioning that. That's such a bad deal that I could not believe it to be true.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 10:47 am
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:50 am to
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Backed by its strong gaming and semiconductor businesses, Sony CEO Kazuo Hirai on Tuesday said he was confident the electronics and entertainment giant will see operating profit reach 500 billion yen ($4.5 billion) in the year ending March 2018, a level the company hasn't seen in 20 years.


LINK


Sounds like pretty good deal for them. It's not like Sony doesn't help them develop, promote, and distribute these games.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:52 am to
That's not the point. The point is they are literally tied to Sony in every possible way. They aren't independent and can't decide their own fate or their own platform. At least Bungie was never Microsoft's slave.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:02 am to
Okay well that Bungie deal was not a first party company. Just 3rd party with an exclusive.

For the record this is all the Sony owned studios.

Naughty Dog (Uncharted LoU etc.)
Polyphony Digital (Gran Turismo)
Santa Monica Studios (God of War)
Guerilla Games (Killzone, Horizon)
Sucker Punch (Infamous)
Media Molecule (LBP)
San Diego Studios (The show)
Bend Studios (Days Gone)
London Studios (TBA)
Japan Studio ( Knack, Last Guardian, Gravity Rush)
Pixelopus (TBD)
Manchestor Studio (TBD)


Then there is a ton of studios that have similar deals with Sony as bungie did once upon a time with Microsoft.

Insomniac games, Kojima Productions, etc.


Sony makes more games than anybody.

This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 11:06 am
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