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Monopolies ruined sports/WWE gaming

Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:35 am
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
1642 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:35 am
Who can step up with a lawsuit? i do not see how these arent considered to be monopolies. Madden isnt allowed to a have a sim company make a NFL game, which is why its awful. NBA is essentially the same even though there are different titles here and there. MLB the show is even getting repetitve cause why try!!? WWE 2k24...good luck keeping your hands off. 33 "Amazing new details"....one of them was reverse irish whips, you can climb on tabels (you could do that on n64) and you can throw weapons....oh and blood! literally not one detail. All these sports games are as bad as they could possibly be with the technology. Put us back in 2000s with tiger golf, college football and hoops...with this technology holy shite.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72061 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:38 am to
Stop buying them.

That’s your fix.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 11:07 am to
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is even getting repetitve cause why try


Kinda of the problem with sports games. There's only so much you can do to improve them.

I'd argue that, because gaming companies are trying so hard to not make sports games repetitive, they've too often gone away from what works for the sake of trying something new, which has caused the gameplay to regress i.e. Madden's passing mechanics and its DB vs WR coverage mechanics.

With MLB the Show, I think the gameplay is as good as it could be. I just wish they'd go beyond AA for the minor leagues.
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
13706 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

With MLB the Show, I think the gameplay is as good as it could be. I just wish they'd go beyond AA for the minor leagues.


I wish they’d abandon last gen and update the graphics.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3562 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 1:15 pm to
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WWE 2k24



A game about people fake fighting, gee what could go wrong.


WTF
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63260 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 3:12 pm to
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Madden isnt allowed to a have a sim company make a NFL game, which is why its awful. NBA is essentially the same even though there are different titles here and there. MLB the show is even getting repetitve cause why try!!? WWE 2k24...good luck keeping your hands off. 33 "Amazing new details"....one of them was reverse irish whips, you can climb on tabels (you could do that on n64) and you can throw weapons....oh and blood! literally not one detail.


I don't understand what literally any of this means.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39185 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 4:17 pm to
Any game developer licensing to the rights to a big sports property is gonna want exclusivity. That's just business. I don't know if there's any good generic football games out there but for wrestling you can try Fire Pro Wrestling. Its mostly guys from NJPW but the series has been around a long time and has a big fanbase in America.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77957 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 7:56 pm to
The sports don't change. How much can the games change?
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2197 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Kinda of the problem with sports games. There's only so much you can do to improve them.

I'd argue that, because gaming companies are trying so hard to not make sports games repetitive, they've too often gone away from what works for the sake of trying something new, which has caused the gameplay to regress i.e. Madden's passing mechanics and its DB vs WR coverage mechanics.


I think the issue when it comes to madden isn't necessarily the gameplay mechanics of playing the game (though imo they have gotten worse) its the complete loss of features when it comes to franchise mode and presentation.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95290 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:03 pm to
Fire Pro could put out a wrestling game with similar but not exact WWE wrestlers, as they have done it before.

Getting a Fire Pro game released in the US is another matter.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64183 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:25 pm to
It blows my mind that football games from the mid 00s have significantly tighter and more responsive controls than ones 20 years later.
Posted by Richard Dangler
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2015
723 posts
Posted on 2/4/24 at 10:56 pm to
I feel like a good wrestling game could be a cash cow for an independant studio, even without being attached to WWE, AEW, or TNA.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
1854 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:31 am to
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Monopolies


Aren't the issue, its licensing.

EA pays $1.5B to the NFL for exclusive rights. The NFL would have to take a huge discount from EA to make the rights non-exclusive, then give some sim company a HUGE discount for them to make the game.

Madden sells way too well and makes way too much money for that to happen. The fact is that most people like it, or at least like it enough to keep playing it. Until thats not the case, it won't change.

The things these conglomerates (because they aren't monopolies) really cause is all the pay to win and microtransactions that plague games nowadays. They require so much money to stay afloat that they have to exploit the playerbase.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:40 pm to
To be fair, WWE has always licensed their games to a single publisher. The difference, I think, is that the publisher would have different developers working on completely different games for different consoles instead of releasing the exact same game across multiple platforms.

With other sports games, I absolutely agree.

The problem now though is even if a new developer attempts to make a game, they are so far behind the competion that no one buys it. That's what happened with NBA Live last generation.
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