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Wrong way to cook gumbo?

Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:38 pm
Cooking a chicken/sausage gumbo for a tailgate this weekend. I usually cook a goose gumbo so I use a stock. After making roux and cooking down trinity, is it wrong to add plain water, dissolve roux, then adding whole hen? Will cooking the hen void the need for a stock?
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:40 pm to
Are you going to cook the hen bones, skin and fat?
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:41 pm to
You're gonna need stock.
Cook your chicken, debone, set meat aside, simmer the bones, strain, then add that stock.

Reincorporate the meat after you've added the stock to the roux and vegetables.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:41 pm to
Yes
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Yes


It's going to be difficult to fish out the bones etc... when the meat is cooked. I won't say it's wrong, but I wouldn't do it that way. Sounds like extra work that's going to be difficult and you'll be pulling out gumbo and trinity when removing the hen to remove and chop the meat, plus I think it will be more difficult to remove the grease from the fat.

Some folks use water and then add raw meat to the gumbo and cook it that way. Might not be as rich, but it can still be good.

Why would you want to do it this way? I'm curious.
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:45 pm to
That's the way I do it. Use bone in poultry, you'll be making the stock as the meat, skin & bones cook. Be sure to fish out all the skin & bones, debone the meat, & return it to the pot. I don't bother with a separate stock when making chicken & sausauge gumbo.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:47 pm to
That's interesting. Seems like it would be so much messier to do it that way, though.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:49 pm to
Just thought it may be easier than cooking hen separate. Been about 8 years since I've cooked a chicken gumbo and couldn't remember.

I suppose I could just boil the hen separate and then debone and add this stock to roux, but it seems like more work and another pot to me.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 1:52 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:55 pm to
Boil water, add onions, garlic, bay leaves, a little tony's, and chicken in one of those mesh netting things.
boil
remove chicken in the mesh.

Add roux. boil until the roux has dissolved. Add sausage and seasonings.

Skim grease, add back deboned chicken meat. bring to boil and done.


It ain't the best gumbo, but it'll eat.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:56 pm to
Chicken in net would simplify things.
Posted by DonChowder
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

You're gonna need stock.
Cook your chicken, debone, set meat aside, simmer the bones, strain, then add that stock.

Reincorporate the meat after you've added the stock to the roux and vegetables.

This is how I do it. It takes a bit longer but I like the "cleanliness" of the finished product when I've take the time to pick out all the stuff I don't want floating around in it.
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Chicken in net would simplify things.


Bigly.

This is the way my mom has always cooked gumbo. It's fast, and she was a teacher. We could get home and have gumbo ready inside of an hour or so.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:02 pm to
You're still going to have to cook a hen quite a bit longer than a fryer though correct?
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:03 pm to
A little bit, usually I can boil a 5 lber for about 45, 50 minutes, and its done.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:04 pm to
thanks guys
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:11 pm to
use this instead of water. much easier than boiling chicken bones.


Posted by KyrieElaison
Tennessee
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:11 pm to
If u have time roast your chicken, debone, roast the bones for color and then make a stock with the bones.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:23 pm to
this is better

Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:23 pm to
I made a roasted turkey stock/broth with turkey wings over the weekend to make extra gravy for Thanksgiving. I wanted to eat it over rice as it was. It was so good.
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

you'll be making the broth as the meat, skin & bones cook.



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