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re: Why Are Food Trucks Not Allowed In New Orleans?

Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:25 pm to
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But you don't support the new boom that could be food trucks?

How is that a possible boom? Please explain.

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Tell me how a food truck scene would be bad for tourism

People will not be flying into MSY to stop off at La Cocinita.
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Yet you can't elaborate on what this negative impact is.

Read all the aforementioned reasons.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:25 pm to
Basically if you believe in freedom, capitalism, and the founding principles of America, you cannot be against new businesses in the free market.

The very fact that government has to step in to "protect" brick and mortar businesses tells me that people are scared of completion
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:25 pm to
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And what about lucky dogs? And other street food vendors?

What's wrong with having competition?


there's one thing that certainly needs to change .. the monopoly that Lucky Dogs has on permits to operate in the FQ. nobody else can move in on them. even if they just offered 10 more permits for food trucks/carts other than Lucky Dog that would dramatically alter the landscape. the FQ is probably one of the top neighborhoods in the country for quick, to-go food. locals and tourists would go nuts over having multiple options for a quick bite so they could eat while walking and continue exploring the area.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:25 pm to
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they have "food truck rallies" and from what I've seen they're not the most popular things in the world


Well they happen pretty much on a weekly basis now. The one they did in Fat City was a huge success.
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:26 pm to
This conversation has run its course, y'all have fun.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:26 pm to
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How is that a possible boom? Please explain.


Educate yourself on Austin's food trucks

Also Baton Rouge has a bunch of great ones that give people jobs and is beneficial to the community
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:27 pm to
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locals and tourists would go nuts over having multiple options for a quick bite so they could eat while walking and continue exploring the area.


Nonsense. We can't have actual free market capitalism in New Orleans!
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:27 pm to
the one I've been to over by Zeitgeist was pretty sparse
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:27 pm to
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People will not be flying into MSY to stop off at La Cocinita.


And no food truck is going to put Mothers out of business.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:28 pm to
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And no food truck is going to put Mothers out of business.


Exactly.

Competition is a good thing for the consumer and the economy
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:29 pm to
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How is that a possible boom? Please explain.
Travel west. New Orleans, with its size and food scene, should have dozens more food trucks and unfortunately much better ones.
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People will not be flying into MSY to stop off at La Cocinita.
I agree. But I also know they'll be spending their late night bucks on food outside of the bar, filming tv episodes about the trucks, and provide a way for new chefs who can't afford to open a restaurant an avenue to fame and fortune.
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Read all the aforementioned reasons.
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you can't elaborate on what this negative impact is.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:30 pm to
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Basically if you believe in freedom, capitalism, and the founding principles of America, you cannot be against new businesses in the free market.

Doc, or whomever feels like answering.

Should I be allowed to set up shop outside a place of business and offer my services at a discount? I cook 100 hamburgers (delicious of course) and sell right outside of McDonalds. Just off the public walkway. If you say no, then you must be anti capitilism. We should have no licensing, or any regulation at all.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:30 pm to
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the one I've been to over by Zeitgeist was pretty sparse


Once they started having them weekly the novelty kinda of wears off. I don't go to food truck rallies, but I will base my watering hole decision for the night based off of access to late night drunk food. Which most of the time happens to be a food truck.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:34 pm to
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there's one thing that certainly needs to change .. the monopoly that Lucky Dogs has on permits to operate in the FQ. nobody else can move in on them. even if they just offered 10 more permits for food trucks/carts other than Lucky Dog that would dramatically alter the landscape. the FQ is probably one of the top neighborhoods in the country for quick, to-go food. locals and tourists would go nuts over having multiple options for a quick bite so they could eat while walking and continue exploring the area.

Amen. Japon in seattle and Japadog in Vancouver





Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:35 pm to
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I agree. But I also know they'll be spending their late night bucks on food outside of the bar, filming tv episodes about the trucks, and provide a way for new chefs who can't afford to open a restaurant an avenue to fame and fortune.

I'm all for late night exceptions.
Investment banking is all about helping people get capital to start successful businesses.

I don't see how trucks replacing restaurants is a boom to the economy.

No I don't have time to elaborate on negative impacts, or I risk a personal one at work.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:35 pm to
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Should I be allowed to set up shop outside a place of business and offer my services at a discount? I cook 100 hamburgers (delicious of course) and sell right outside of McDonalds. Just off the public walkway. If you say no, then you must be anti capitilism. We should have no licensing, or any regulation at all.


Of course you should be able to.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:38 pm to
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Competition is relative to an even playing field.
There is no such thing as an even playing field. To attempt to manipulate an even playing field through the work of government is called corporatism, or cronyism; in economics it's a similar to a subset of fascism.
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Would you go into business if your competitors had a major advantage?
No. Now elaborate how that question is relevant here.
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At the same time, if you are the politician, is it in the city's interest to allow trucks to come in and disrupt the current system?
The fact that you use the word "disrupt" is exactly why I know you're one of those who fear this type of competition. Never mind that a growing food truck scene means more business, jobs, and options for the consumer.
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As said, trucks could have a long term negative effect on property values, and other civil services.
A nice broad, blanket statement that I don't think you've thought through. Tell me which property values and civil services a food truck will disrupt.
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So you can save $1 on a bahn mi?
Sure. Why do you want to keep consumers for getting the best bang for their buck?
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:41 pm to
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I'm all for late night exceptions.
Yay! This is why we can't have nice things.
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I don't see how trucks replacing restaurants is a boom to the economy.
You haven't explained how this will happen and if it does, why it's bad.
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No I don't have time to elaborate on negative impacts
If you don't know any or haven't thought it through, that's alright. The main thing is that you realize that new orleans' government is killing thousands (possibly millions in the future) of money, jobs, attention, and even creativity.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:42 pm to
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Should I be allowed to set up shop outside a place of business and offer my services at a discount? I cook 100 hamburgers (delicious of course) and sell right outside of McDonalds. Just off the public walkway. If you say no, then you must be anti capitilism. We should have no licensing, or any regulation at all.
Are you trespassing?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:42 pm to
This is pretty simple. The brick and mortar restaurant people don't want any competition as that would be more effort on their part to increase the quality of their own product.

If a brick and mortar wants to compete, they can always go buy a food truck of their own and have a mobile business.
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