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Texas crutch, yea or nay?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:33 pm
I'm trying to ween myself from the 3-2-1 method since purists and experts say that the foil crutch is not necessary, although I haven't achieved great results with unfoiled ribs. If I'm happy with the 3-2-1 method as are my guests, I may just stick with that. Right now I have four half slabs in my smoker. I may wrap 2 of them and compare.
What are your preferences? Also, sauce or no sauce?
What are your preferences? Also, sauce or no sauce?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:36 pm to Degas
Do what works best for you, and what you think tastes best. I foil, but I think I'll do without foil next round. I also only do dry rub on my ribs, and let people dip in sauce if desired. Again, do what you like.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:37 pm to Degas
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
But, it's nice to be versatile and able to use different options to produce good ribs. I like to experiment with different methods when I'm on my own, but when cooking for guests I tend to use the tried and true methods that produce the best
But, it's nice to be versatile and able to use different options to produce good ribs. I like to experiment with different methods when I'm on my own, but when cooking for guests I tend to use the tried and true methods that produce the best
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:38 pm to Degas
No wrap, no sauce until after I pull and just on some of them. Seems to me the 3 2 1 is still used by most when not using kamado type grill.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:44 pm to Degas
Crutch is overused in cooking. I've seen reverse sear called a crutch. I'm eating a $50 steak right now that is phenomenal but has a tiny gray ring that is nonexistent in RS. So if it works, and it produces better results, do it.
I don't wrap ribs because I'm lazy. I just let it ride.
I don't wrap ribs because I'm lazy. I just let it ride.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:48 pm to GRTiger
I dont wrap, but I usually always do Spares, which are hard to dry out. Plus I dont mind some extra smoky flavor over fall off the bone mushy ribs. Do whatever fits your taste.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:51 pm to Degas
I have a rack of St. Louis on right now. I wrapped in butcher paper instead of foil. Done this a few times, I might try no wrap next time to see if they are drier than usual.
The wrap surely isn't helping with the stall, been around 175 for 90 mins it seems like
The wrap surely isn't helping with the stall, been around 175 for 90 mins it seems like
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:00 pm to RonFNSwanson
I've seen people say to take baby backs to 190 internal temp. I just don't see how that's possible without foiling and without drying them out
I tried, pulled them off around 180 because they were looking pretty dry, and that's exactly how they turned out
Do baby backs really have enough collagen and fat to go to 190?
I tried, pulled them off around 180 because they were looking pretty dry, and that's exactly how they turned out
Do baby backs really have enough collagen and fat to go to 190?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:20 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Cook ribs by feel not by temp.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:23 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:I'm reading Project Smoke by Steven Raichlen and he prefers unfoiled, so I thought I'd give it a go a few days ago, but they turned out dry. I probably left them on too long, but was awaiting visual results from a bounce test he recommended. Slightly pick up a slab and bounce it up and down with tongs to see if it separates a little. If it does, they're ready.
I've seen people say to take baby backs to 190 internal temp. I just don't see how that's possible without foiling and without drying them out
Also, wouldn't an internal temp of 190 be hard to read with the bones? I'm constantly monitoring my smoker temp btw which is at a nice 230 degrees.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:06 pm to Degas
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'm reading Project Smoke by Steven Raichlen and he prefers
Just bought that book. Recipes look great.
I'll use the crutch if I'm in a bind. For instance, I put a pork shoulder on last Saturday at 5 am. Party at the house was at 2. We'll around 12/1230, my internal temp was 175. I was gaining 3 degrees every half hour at that point so I needed to speed things up. So I wrapped and by 1:30, my temps were right at 200. Was able to put in an ice chest and rest for an hour and the shoulder was fantastic.
So yes, if I'm running short on time, then I use the crutch.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:18 pm to BugAC
I wrapped two with chicken stock and apple cider vinegar, the other two are exposed. I'll report back with results.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:22 pm to Degas
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Also, wouldn't an internal temp of 190 be hard to read with the bones? I'm constantly monitoring my smoker temp btw which is at a nice 230 degrees.
If anything the bones would make the reading higher
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:59 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Cook ribs by feel not by temp.
This is why I use the bend test. Temps are hard to trust with all those bones and a thiner piece of meat.
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If you look close you can see where these cracked when picked up with tongs. Last set of Spares I did. When they start cracking I hit with glaze and let them go for about 25 more minutes then pull and rest for about 20 minutes.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:02 pm to golfntiger32
Only thing i wrap is brisket, w/butcher paper
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:03 pm to golfntiger32
Looks great GT. I use the bend test too.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:16 pm to Degas
There's different preferences. I like mine a little on the tender side so I foil them for a while before finishing on high heat for the bark.
I used to follow amazingribs recipe (no foil) and it's great but is specifically for a little less tender meat IMO.
I used to follow amazingribs recipe (no foil) and it's great but is specifically for a little less tender meat IMO.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:30 pm to USMCTiger03
I'll try the bend test, but I could see how spare ribs could go longer with the higher fat content
Yea I tried the amazing ribs recipe as well. They taste good, just not very tender (if you are doing baby backs)
Yea I tried the amazing ribs recipe as well. They taste good, just not very tender (if you are doing baby backs)
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:24 pm to Degas
Nay!! Mostly dry. A little sauce sometimes if it's not overly sweet.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:54 am to Degas
I foiled two and left two uncovered. After the five or so hours, I uncovered the two and they looked far more tasty than the uncovered ones. The looked deliciously moist as compared to dry and at that point I swore that I would always crutch. I cranked up the heat for the final stage and surprisingly the rub on the uncovered ones sort of melted and caught up with the covered ones. I still prefer the crutched ones, but the uncovered ones weren't bad.
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