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re: Spice - New Baton Rouge Eatery on Perkins - Whats the scoop?
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:20 pm to LouisianaLady
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:20 pm to LouisianaLady
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Even Olive or Twist didn't seem to be doing that great before Rum House opened and really saved it.
I always thought Olive Or Twist was doing well... if anything Rum House has hurt it because of the severe lack of parking.
I could be wrong though.
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:22 pm to LSUBoo
I have no idea. I may have just chosen bad times, but the only time I ever saw a lot of people in there was a Friday night. I tried on a few weeknights and they had closed a couple hours early both times, but that could just be coincidence.
I don't know. I just think the area is odd, and I don't have much faith in this restaurant. Something about it rubs me the wrong way and has me in no hurry to try it.
I'll admit, although it looks like Portico, the food photos look good. I am also hungry.
I don't know. I just think the area is odd, and I don't have much faith in this restaurant. Something about it rubs me the wrong way and has me in no hurry to try it.
I'll admit, although it looks like Portico, the food photos look good. I am also hungry.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:30 pm to Jones
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The inside is very posh and gives off a club/lounge vibe. Would probably be better downtown on 3rd street.
Not by a ymca, produce stand, and a nursery.
My thoughts as well. It just didn't make sense to me and gave me a WTF moment when I walked in.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:04 pm to bossflossjr
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Since the invention of wives, it seems I now know less than nothing.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:06 pm to LSUAfro
The vibe of a place not fitting the location is the most superficial complaint about a restaurant I have ever heard. Especially when it had little to nothing to do with why the place failed.
I can probably name off half a dozen places that don't 'fit their location'
I can probably name off half a dozen places that don't 'fit their location'
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:16 pm to fightin tigers
Eh. I don't think it's a superficial complaint.
I just think the entire concept of the restaurant, including the complete disregard for making a name for themselves, is blah. The name is kinda blah. The food sounds kinda blah. The foot at LBT was DEFINITELY blah.
I wouldn't say that nothing could last there. I mean, look at Ruffinos. It is in a similar stretch of "nothing" and does fine. I just don't think Spice and LBT sound very good.. I can't really put my finger on it.
Like I said, they remind me of Portico.
BR is a really weird city as far as locations go. The location of Spice isn't really "the middle of nowhere", but people generally flock towards areas with tons of options nearby. Why that is? I have no idea. But it seems to be the case.
Kinda like that new Pats and how everyone keeps saying it is a bad location. Technically, it is only a mile or so from Towne Centre, but it is in a stretch that doesn't get restaurant traffic.
I just think the entire concept of the restaurant, including the complete disregard for making a name for themselves, is blah. The name is kinda blah. The food sounds kinda blah. The foot at LBT was DEFINITELY blah.
I wouldn't say that nothing could last there. I mean, look at Ruffinos. It is in a similar stretch of "nothing" and does fine. I just don't think Spice and LBT sound very good.. I can't really put my finger on it.
Like I said, they remind me of Portico.
BR is a really weird city as far as locations go. The location of Spice isn't really "the middle of nowhere", but people generally flock towards areas with tons of options nearby. Why that is? I have no idea. But it seems to be the case.
Kinda like that new Pats and how everyone keeps saying it is a bad location. Technically, it is only a mile or so from Towne Centre, but it is in a stretch that doesn't get restaurant traffic.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:49 pm to LouisianaLady
Maybe I just don't get how people shite on this restaurant or others without ever trying it. I guess it is the trend of foodies, BR diners, or this board at least.
Harping on the decor not matching the area is petty as can be. Saying the food sucked is one thing, but saying it needs to be more like Sammy's and Rotolo's (two places that get hammered regularly) is nonsense. Just a few months ago people were bitching about how BR is stagnant and no one does anything different. This place did it and gets criticized not for lacking, but for trying it in the first place.
Harping on the decor not matching the area is petty as can be. Saying the food sucked is one thing, but saying it needs to be more like Sammy's and Rotolo's (two places that get hammered regularly) is nonsense. Just a few months ago people were bitching about how BR is stagnant and no one does anything different. This place did it and gets criticized not for lacking, but for trying it in the first place.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:01 pm to fightin tigers
Fwiw, I'm not shitting on the place. I just don't have faith in the location combined with what the place is.
There are things I think they should do differently to attract people, which is mostly the branding side of my brain. But mostly, my knock is on BR and how somethig like simple location and marketing can make the whole difference.
There are things I think they should do differently to attract people, which is mostly the branding side of my brain. But mostly, my knock is on BR and how somethig like simple location and marketing can make the whole difference.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:10 pm to LouisianaLady
I guess it is more telling that the place opened in late October and, despite knowing about it, no one on this board has been there.
Too many better options than a place no one has tried.
Too many better options than a place no one has tried.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:20 pm to Jones
It's cheaper than buying a lot and building.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:23 pm to J Murdah
well duh, but is that the only two options?
after looking at the menu, id be shocked if that place thrives there. the location just isnt that good imo. especially for the lunch crowd
after looking at the menu, id be shocked if that place thrives there. the location just isnt that good imo. especially for the lunch crowd
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:41 pm to Jones
The name Spice makes me think of Indian cuisine. Am I alone on this?
The location ain't as bad as some here make it out to be. It ain't exactly great either, but there's a ton of traffic that goes by that place daily.
I have no doubt that a restaurant with a proper concept would do well there.
Then again, I could be wrong about the busyness of the location. I don't pass by that strip mall enough to know how busy they get, so I have a question: How is Rotolo's doing? How would you rate them? Never Busy, Rarely Busy, Busy or Very Busy? How are the other businesses in that strip mall doing? And the immediate area surrounding it? I know that lots of folks go to the fruit stand, Bowie Outfitters, La Nursery and the YMCA.
My guess is that the businesses in this area do OK (sort of between Rarely Busy and Busy). So if that's true, then the problem is with the restaurant's concept not being a good match for the location, and not due to a bad location. In other words, there's plenty of people to make a restaurant work there. It's just a matter of starting a restaurant that appeals to those people.
The location ain't as bad as some here make it out to be. It ain't exactly great either, but there's a ton of traffic that goes by that place daily.
I have no doubt that a restaurant with a proper concept would do well there.
Then again, I could be wrong about the busyness of the location. I don't pass by that strip mall enough to know how busy they get, so I have a question: How is Rotolo's doing? How would you rate them? Never Busy, Rarely Busy, Busy or Very Busy? How are the other businesses in that strip mall doing? And the immediate area surrounding it? I know that lots of folks go to the fruit stand, Bowie Outfitters, La Nursery and the YMCA.
My guess is that the businesses in this area do OK (sort of between Rarely Busy and Busy). So if that's true, then the problem is with the restaurant's concept not being a good match for the location, and not due to a bad location. In other words, there's plenty of people to make a restaurant work there. It's just a matter of starting a restaurant that appeals to those people.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 1/8/15 at 6:10 am to Langland
I think the location is fine, IMO what killed LBT was the service and concept. First time, we sat at bar and bartender was busy chatting up waitresses or fooling around in back instead of refilling our empty drinks. Food was blah but I decided to give it a second chance and went during a Saints day game. Patio area was empty and TV's were off. Asked to be seated on patio to watch game and hostess said NO because "no server is assigned out there." There was maybe four active tables in the whole place. Walked out and didn't go back.
Will give Spice a shot. I liked that chefs work at IPO.
Will give Spice a shot. I liked that chefs work at IPO.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 6:51 am to fightin tigers
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Too many better options than a place no one has tried
I don't like it, so I haven't gone there
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:27 am to fightin tigers
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Maybe I just don't get how people shite on this restaurant or others without ever trying it.
FWIW, I was shitting on Le Bon Temps, which I had tried.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 8:50 am to fightin tigers
quote:I don't believe anybody shite on this because of the decor. We offered opinions on it. Guess that isn't reasonable. You went straight to believing people were shitting on it.
Maybe I just don't get how people shite on this restaurant or others without ever trying it. I guess it is the trend of foodies, BR diners, or this board at least.
quote:You can't be serious. I don't think you understand how important decor/vibe is to a bar/restaurant.
Harping on the decor not matching the area is petty as can be
quote:Again, nobody said anything of the sort. Like Jones said, it's just not what you would expect when you walk in to that location. It had a very Miami strip feel to it right in between a nursery and a produce stand. Not hating. I went twice.
but saying it needs to be more like Sammy's and Rotolo
Posted on 1/8/15 at 8:50 am to fightin tigers
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Maybe I just don't get how people shite on this restaurant or others without ever trying it.
Haven't tried the new place. I know the chef's food has been well received in the past.
The old place didn't have an identity. Were they a restaurant or did they want to be a club? Same type issues I have with Pelican House. I didn't enjoy the food at all at LBT and it was weird and uncomfortable in there when the family and I went for dinner.
I will go try out the new place though to see how it is.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 8:57 am to BMoney
quote:Agreed. It just had a strange feel to it.
weird and uncomfortable in there when the family and I went for dinner.
I had really bad service both times as well, but I chalked that up to being new(2-3 months after opening). Server would disappear for 15-20 minutes. Come back smelling like smoke etc. Doesn't bother me as long as you have somebody watching tables. Waiters didn't know any of beer/liquor offerings and couldn't explain any of the food.
I just don't think the owners/managers were on top of their game with that place.
I will try Spice though.
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 8:59 am
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:12 am to BMoney
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The old place didn't have an identity. Were they a restaurant or did they want to be a club? Same type issues I have with Pelican House. I didn't enjoy the food at all at LBT and it was weird and uncomfortable in there when the family and I went for dinner.
Exactly this.
And FT is right: If the food is really good at Spice, I hate to see it not do well. I just think the place is climbing an uphill battle because they kept the same style of food that LBT had, the same decor and vibe that LBT had, and they have made zero effort to advertise or separate themselves from what was already there. Basically, it seems like the same place with a new name.
City Pork is an excellent example of branding done right. With the right PR, providing their food is good, Spice could be a success.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 1:33 pm to LouisianaLady
quote:Music to a restaurant owner's ears. Trust me, they know their food is good. They believe, like you, that all they need to do is get the word out. Of course, that's what all restaurants with a low customer count think. And of course, sometimes they are correct...sometimes.
With the right PR, providing their food is good, Spice could be a success.
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