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Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:46 pm to Jones
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sammys on highland.
Their size is keeping them off the list. If we were going by sales per sq ft, then yes.
And yes, they are doing very well.
Based on their sq footage (4,400 sq ft) and sales of around $450 per sq ft., their sales are pretty close to $2 million per year, probably more.
ETA:
By comparison, Chimes East is around 13,000 sq ft (a very large restaurant) and is very busy also. So at $450 per sq ft and 13,000 sq ft, that damn near $6 million per year, but it's probably closer to $7 million.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:06 pm to Langland
quote:
Their size is keeping them off the list. If we were going by sales per sq ft, then yes.
That place can sit a lot of people. It sits more than some of these bolded and probably on par with the others.
quote:
1. Chimes East
2. Twin Peaks
3. Hooters (I guess Siegen is busier than the College Dr./Corporate Location)
4. Olive Garden
5. Parrain's
6. Ruffino's
7. TJ Ribs (Acadian)
8. Outback Steakhouse (Acadian)
9. BJ's Restaurant & Brewhouse
10. PF Changs
Cant speak on Olive Garden, but Sammys fits a lot of people in its doors. They have 4 tables on the patio, around 6 in the side area behind the takeout counter, a good amount when you walk in and more by the entrance to the kitchen, they have that side room that backs up to the side bar parking lot (around 8 tables), and the bar which has almost 10 tables.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:08 pm to Langland
If we're going by sales per sq feet, then Taco Bell on Burbank has to be on there. There is never less than 5 cars in the dive thru line
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:01 am to Cap Crunch
I was sent a sales sheet of restaurants around town. Mostly chains, and Olive Garden was 7.2 million last year and Red Lobster was 4.2 million.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:22 am to montana
what others were on there?
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:53 am to Jones
At $450 per sq ft.
1. Chimes East (13,000 sq ft)($5.85 million)
2. Twin Peaks (6,650 sq ft)($2.99 million)
3. Hooters (Siegen) 6,000 sq ft) ($2.7 million)
4. Olive Garden (8,900 sq ft)($4 million)
5. Parrain's (12,000 sq ft)($5.4 million)
6. Ruffino's (11,500 sq ft)($5.18 million)
7. TJ Ribs (Acadian) (9,500 sq ft)($4.28 million)
8. Outback Steakhouse (Acadian) (6,800 sq ft) ($3 million)
9. BJ's Restaurant & Brewhouse (9,700 sq ft) ($4.4 million)
10. PF Changs (8,700 sq ft) ($3.9 million)
These are ballpark sales numbers. They all don't make $450 per sq ft, obviously. Also they all aren't open for lunch and dinner. Table turns are different.
You make good points about Sammy's.
ETA: Corrected numbers for TJ Ribs.
1. Chimes East (13,000 sq ft)($5.85 million)
2. Twin Peaks (6,650 sq ft)($2.99 million)
3. Hooters (Siegen) 6,000 sq ft) ($2.7 million)
4. Olive Garden (8,900 sq ft)($4 million)
5. Parrain's (12,000 sq ft)($5.4 million)
6. Ruffino's (11,500 sq ft)($5.18 million)
7. TJ Ribs (Acadian) (9,500 sq ft)($4.28 million)
8. Outback Steakhouse (Acadian) (6,800 sq ft) ($3 million)
9. BJ's Restaurant & Brewhouse (9,700 sq ft) ($4.4 million)
10. PF Changs (8,700 sq ft) ($3.9 million)
These are ballpark sales numbers. They all don't make $450 per sq ft, obviously. Also they all aren't open for lunch and dinner. Table turns are different.
You make good points about Sammy's.
ETA: Corrected numbers for TJ Ribs.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 1:04 am
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:59 am to montana
quote:I don't believe 7.2 million for Olive Garden. That's all most twice the per unit average. But I have no trouble believing $5 million for that location.
I was sent a sales sheet of restaurants around town. Mostly chains, and Olive Garden was 7.2 million last year and Red Lobster was 4.2 million.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 1:37 am
Posted on 4/30/15 at 1:02 am to Langland
Im confused. Are you just making up numbers in here with these sales numbers? Are those square footage numbers accurate?
That guys Olive Garden statement is way off from yours.
I would think that Sammys on Highland does better than Twin Peaks, Hooters, Parrains, Ruffinos, TJ Ribs, and maybe more than one of the chains in 8-10.
That guys Olive Garden statement is way off from yours.
I would think that Sammys on Highland does better than Twin Peaks, Hooters, Parrains, Ruffinos, TJ Ribs, and maybe more than one of the chains in 8-10.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 1:09 am to Jones
quote:Square footage are pretty dang close. LINK
Im confused. Are you just making up numbers in here with these sales numbers? Are those square footage numbers accurate?
Sales per sq ft are based on industry numbers that I've adapted.
Never Busy ($150)(restaurant is losing money)
Rarely Busy ($200)(restaurant is breaking even)
Busy ($300)(restaurant is making money)
Very Busy ($500)(restaurant is making lots of money)
quote:Olive Garden is a public company. You can Google their sales numbers. $3.6 billion in sales divided by 830 restaurants = $4.33 million per restaurant.
That guys Olive Garden statement is way off from yours.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 1:15 am
Posted on 4/30/15 at 1:36 am to Langland
Going by square footage still doesnt seem accurate. Places are set up different than others. Sammys is piled in there while a place like Ruffinos is more spread out. You have them and Parrains at over 10,000 sq ft. There is a lot of dead space in those places. Hell in Parrains, the entrance way, bar area and pathways to the different areas of the restaurant are big enough to have a small short order sandwich shop in.
and youre saying Sammys is 4400 square feet. I would imagine that Sammys seats as much if not more people than Twin Peaks.
That calculator map is pretty cool. Just did my house
quote:
2. Twin Peaks (6,650 sq ft)($2.99 million)
and youre saying Sammys is 4400 square feet. I would imagine that Sammys seats as much if not more people than Twin Peaks.
That calculator map is pretty cool. Just did my house
Posted on 4/30/15 at 1:52 am to Jones
quote:Could be.
and youre saying Sammys is 4400 square feet. I would imagine that Sammys seats as much if not more people than Twin Peaks.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:45 am to Langland
I can say from experience that Ruffinos absolutely is printing money. They have no lunch service to speak of, as the Friday lunch is not profitable and the only other lunch is Sunday brunch. However the average price per person for a meal there is well over $50, considering one entree, an alcoholic drink, salad, and a split appetizer. And I know last Saturday from 5-close they served over 600 people and serve a minimum of 150 every night of the week. The only way any other place on this list is competing with that is if they have an extremely profitable lunch every day
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:02 am to Upperdecker
Twin Peaks was oner 5 million.
I will look for the sales sheet. Olive Garden was shocking at 7 million.
I will look for the sales sheet. Olive Garden was shocking at 7 million.
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