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re: Never using jarred roux again FML

Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48878 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:56 pm to
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It’s flour. And oil. You sitting there stirring it together doesn’t come out with a better end product than the jar fresh trinity, stock, etc does result in a better end product.

I didn’t say shite about apple pies or whatever other nonsense you brought up.

Flour and oil. By all means, waste your time stirring. Won’t make a difference.




So you can tell a difference with “fresh” trinity being better with jarred roux? That’s laughable.

And I don’t waste my time. When I make a roux I make 3 quarts up to a gallon at a time and keep it in my icebox. I never said jarred roux was bad. I simply said I enjoy making my own.

So kindly go frick yourself and enjoy your instant gratification.
Posted by CnAzInCA
Dallas, Texas
Member since Jan 2014
600 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 6:53 pm to
Once you get your stock to a rolling simmer, just add the roux using a spoon. Allow the roux to cook out at least an hour. I usually make my own roux, but I have used the jar brands a few times, and I’ve not had any problems with this method.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 7:30 pm to
No, you can’t
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9543 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

It’s flour. And oil. You sitting there stirring it together doesn’t come out with a better end product than the jar ? fresh trinity, stock, etc does result in a better end product.


This ^

I'd like to hear how someone can logically defend why stirring flour and oil yourself comes out better than a jar.

Of course fresh vegetables makes a difference over dried. Vegetables <> flour and oil
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6653 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:42 pm to
It was a typo, but context should have been clear. I meant fresh chopped veg, stock, etc is a clear advantage compared to other shortcuts, while the difference between jar roux and homemade roux is not as much a difference. Precut veg are never the best option to cook with. They let all the water out and won’t sauté correctly. Common knowledge. Figured an expert like yourself would know such a thing.

Have a drink and calm down boomer.
Posted by TunaTrip
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2019
450 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 10:16 pm to
If you don’t Sous Vide your roux, then are you really living?

Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28633 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 11:26 pm to
To me the roux is really worth making if you fry your chicken in the oil and then use that oil to make the roux. Definitely adds a different element of flavor.

I also get it if you just enjoy the overall process of doing everything from scratch. I enjoy sometimes myself.

Just don't act like your flour and oil tastes any different than the jarred flour and oil. It's just that...flour and oil.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18869 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 6:33 am to
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Are you actually following the directions and adding it to boiling water / stock? Only way I can see it messing something up is if you actually try to cook the roux by itself more in a skillet, which is dumb.


Nope.

I melt the jar roux down, with a little oil added to thin it enough that I can saute the trinity in it, plus garlic. Then mix/whisk in warm stock. Season and let it simmer a good while. Add meats and okra near the end so they don't overcook.

Have done it many times, and it works great.

I use the same approach when making my own roux.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48878 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:25 am to
quote:

Just don't act like your flour and oil tastes any different than the jarred flour and oil. It's just that...flour and oil.




Well if you think roux has no taste or flavor you are incorrect. All of them taste different, homemade or jarred. Color, type of oil, type of flour, amount of time cooked dictates the flavor regardless of who made it and it’s a flavor that comes through in the finished product.

Make a roux with stale flour and put it in a gumbo and see how that tastes.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16287 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:19 am to
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who has the time to mess with a roux these days on a weekday? I don't have an extra hour to stir around flour and oil.


Made roux last night from scratch. Got it nice and dark, just how I like it. Took a hair over 20 minutes. If it takes you longer than that, you're doing it wrong.

Plus, I'd rather use fresh leaf lard from my local butcher shop to make my roux rather than some vegetable oil and flour mix that's been sitting in a jar on a shelf somewhere for who knows how long.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12310 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:22 am to
Why would you do it in the first place????
Posted by Chelsea Blue
Northshore
Member since Oct 2019
156 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Well if you think roux has no taste or flavor you are incorrect. All of them taste different, homemade or jarred. Color, type of oil, type of flour, amount of time cooked dictates the flavor regardless of who made it and it’s a flavor that comes through in the finished product.

Make a roux with stale flour and put it in a gumbo and see how that tastes.


He's right you know.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:50 am to
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I can always tell when a gumbo was made with jarred roux.


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