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Looking for oldest continuous bar in Louisiana.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:38 am
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:38 am
An acquaintance is trying to visit the oldest bars in all 50 states. He wants it to be not just the oldest, but the oldest continuously run bar (open regularly since the beginning). When I Google, it points to Lafitte's Blacksmith Bar, but some have said that is not actually true. I don't think it matters to him if there is truth to it ever being the property of Jean Lafitte. He just cares about finding the oldest bar.
Anybody?
Anybody?
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 2:10 pm
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:39 am to Darla Hood
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Lafitte's Blacksmith Bar,
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oldest continuous bar in America.
FIFY
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:41 am to Darla Hood
Lafitte's sounds right. Only other one I can think may give it a run is Napoleon House.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:43 am to Rohan2Reed
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Only other one I can think may give it a run is Napoleon House.
I don't think it opened as a bar until the early 20th century. There's probably plenty of older bars in New Orleans alone.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:05 am to Darla Hood
Well it depends on your definition of bar and continuously run. Lafitte's has moved a couple times, and the bars called The Absinthe House bar and The Old Absinthe House Bar have been around forever.
If I really had to guess, however, I would be willing to bet that Tujague's (which has always been a mix of a bar and a restaurant) probably has the strongest claim to that title in New Orleans. Plus they invented quite a few drinks.
If I really had to guess, however, I would be willing to bet that Tujague's (which has always been a mix of a bar and a restaurant) probably has the strongest claim to that title in New Orleans. Plus they invented quite a few drinks.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:07 am to BlackenedOut
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Lafitte's has moved a couple times
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it points to Lafitte's Blacksmith Bar
Ask for Arse.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 10:09 am
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:11 am to Darla Hood
Fred's
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:12 am to BlackenedOut
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. Lafitte's has moved a couple times,
Maybe I'm wrong, but as I understand it, there have been various places that have laid claim to the name "Lafitte's," but that the current building housing the Lafitte's Blacksmith Shop bar has, as far as anyone can tell, continuously served as a bar/tavern since the early 18th late 17th century.
The whole "continuous operating bar" deal is sort of a difficult thing to "officially" claim due to the stupid constitutional hiccup of the early 20th century.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:14 am to Y.A. Tittle
Correct, that is what I meant. The businesses which have operated a bar there have changed hands a few times. I seem to recall a story about some funeral march the denizen's of Lafitte's had when a new owner took over the bar where they marched to the new bar called Lafitte's in Exile.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:15 am to BlackenedOut
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The Absinthe House bar and The Old Absinthe House Bar have been around forever.
Plus they invented quite a few drinks.
Doesnt the absinthe house claim to have invented the first cocktail? the sazerac?
isnt there the story about how french word ?coqtier? became cocktail?
whats the truth to any of that you think?
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:19 am to BlackenedOut
For what it's worth, there's a bunch of old "tavern" type places dotted around the Northeast that have similar sorts of claims as Lafitte's. Most of it is all apocryphal and alomost impossible to verify the "continuous operation" part.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:22 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Maybe I'm wrong, but as I understand it, there have been various places that have laid claim to the name "Lafitte's,"
Lafitte's used to be a gay bar. It was purchased in the 50/60's. The new owners kicked the gays out and they opened Lafittes in Exile up the street.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:23 am to pookiebear
All fables.
The Sazerac was invented by a chemist named Antoine Peychaud at his pharmacy. There was a theory that cocktail derived from that french word, but that has proven to be demonstratively false. As well as the idea that the cocktail was invented or termed in New Orleans. David Wondrich and Wayne Curtis and others have written some pretty entertaining books on cocktail history which debunk a lot of these myths.
For instance, the word cocktail was used in a newspaper article in the northeast (I think it was the NE, recalling from memory) at the time Peychaud was a 4 year old boy in Haiti or whichever Caribbean Island he hailed from.
The Sazerac was invented by a chemist named Antoine Peychaud at his pharmacy. There was a theory that cocktail derived from that french word, but that has proven to be demonstratively false. As well as the idea that the cocktail was invented or termed in New Orleans. David Wondrich and Wayne Curtis and others have written some pretty entertaining books on cocktail history which debunk a lot of these myths.
For instance, the word cocktail was used in a newspaper article in the northeast (I think it was the NE, recalling from memory) at the time Peychaud was a 4 year old boy in Haiti or whichever Caribbean Island he hailed from.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:24 am to arseinclarse
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Lafitte's used to be a gay bar. It was purchased in the 50/60's. The new owners kicked the gays out and they opened Lafittes in Exile up the street.
I know a lot of the old queens in New Orleans still get pissed if you call the Blacksmith Shop "Lafittes".
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:25 am to Y.A. Tittle
Yeah especially since in its early days Lafitte's and most bars in New Orleans would have been coffee houses that served cognac or port or sherry or madeira. The idea of a bar is the tricky thing. Even a tavern, which predates notion of a bar, is more than just a bar. It often denoted a place where a traveler could get a meal, rest his horses, and drink ale, whiskey, or rum before passing out. Not exactly a bar as we think of it.
I really think Tujague's could have a claim.
I really think Tujague's could have a claim.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:27 am to BlackenedOut
I am appreciating all of the input in this thread!
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:27 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I know a lot of the old queens in New Orleans
I bet you do.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:38 am to Y.A. Tittle
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you call the Blacksmith Shop "Lafittes"
I call it the Shop. It sounds like I'm going to work.
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I know a lot of the old queens in New Orleans
I wonder if we run in the same circles.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:39 am to arseinclarse
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I wonder if we run in the same circles.
Heeeeyyyyy!!!!
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