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Current Wine Vintages Worth Storing/Cellar

Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:45 am
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:45 am
Any recommendations? I'm looking to toss a few Cabernets of currently available vintages for 8-10 year storage. I have heard a lot of good things about 2012 Napa.

I had a great bottle of 2011 Silver Oak and a Stag's Leap Artemis (11&12) over the past month and would love to see how these 40-$50 bottles turn out in a decade or so. Where do yall shop for your better bottles?
This post was edited on 7/15/16 at 9:57 am
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 1:17 pm to
No wine drinkers on today eh?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35559 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 1:41 pm to
2010 Brunello di Montalcino. 2010 Barolo was pretty damned good as well.

We're fortunate. We have Total Wine nearby and there's a great Italian Market in DC. Then there are the too infrequent trips to Italy to buy a couple of cases and have them shipped over.
Posted by jlu03
San Diego
Member since Jul 2012
3320 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by daberryballer
West of da Berry
Member since Oct 2015
989 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 3:37 pm to
2013 Cabs rival recent vintages...'94,'97,'05 ,'11 also the Williamette Valley 2014 Pinots are spectacular worth putting down for 3-5 yrs. Garagiste in Seattle, Wa is the #1 wine retailer in US they have a mail order business that is really good...get an email everyday from them ...there food items alone are worth being on the daily email list...go to garagiste.com. You can thank me later!
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 3:39 pm to
Is that bottled and relabeled by Sutter Home or Gallo Family?
Posted by jlu03
San Diego
Member since Jul 2012
3320 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 3:48 pm to
Probably relabeled by Arbor Mist
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 3:55 pm to
I like drinking way more than I like storing wine
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:03 pm to
Surely we aren't the only ones that consider "Saturday Night" a special occasion.

I like the availability of California Cabs. I've had quite a few of the average joes from the local stores and I'm thinking "My 40 yr old self will really wish I had put away a great bottle of 2012 ten years ago."
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 4:04 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35559 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

I like drinking way more than I like storing wine


There's drink it now wine (Barbera, Rosso di Montalcino, etc.) and there's store it and let it get really great wine (Brunello di Montalcino, Barolo, etc.)

I'm a big fan of the Italian wines so I listed some of those.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:17 pm to
I can't wait to start trying more french/italian wines. I have been hesitant though. How good can a bottle be if it was grown/produced/stored/bottled then shipped halfway across the world for $10.00 I need a few more raises before I get to the big producers overseas.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 7/14/16 at 5:48 pm to
2013 Plumpjack Cab(across the street from Silver Oak) scored 100; sister winery in Stags Leap, Odette Cab hit 100 in 2012; Cade Howell Mountain Cab only got 96. All available at Hocus Pocus in Alexandria, or Marcellos in New Orleans.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35559 posts
Posted on 7/14/16 at 6:19 pm to
$40-$60 bottles are the sweet spot for me. If you want Brunello, Barolo or Barbaresco that's around the entry level price but there are great option at that price point.
Posted by Contender54
the Enn Oh
Member since Jan 2009
998 posts
Posted on 7/14/16 at 10:08 pm to
The thing is, even an "off" year of a Cabernet at that level will likely drink well after laying down for 10 years.

I drank a $20 Australian Cabernet from 2006 last year. At 9 yrs old, it was great.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 7/14/16 at 11:14 pm to
I heard about a great wine called Domaine De La Madone - Fleurie - 2010 but I can't find where in the world to purchase it...if it is even available. Is there a great site for ordering lots of wines with worldwide shipping?

Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:31 am to
quote:

The thing is, even an "off" year of a Cabernet at that level will likely drink well after laying down for 10 years.


Yep
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5806 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:37 am to
Wine pricing, wholesale, retail, restaurant, etc..., can be one of the most confounding, confusing, and frustrating commodities to try and break down.

In a lot of ways the fixed costs of wine making, bottling, distribution, etc... are relatively stable across the entire spectrum. For instance, a glass bottle for French wine costs the same roughly as a glass bottle for Italian wine. (Of course, there are different types of bottles with different costs, but in general...). Bottling, corks, cartons, shipping costs, etc...

So what you are really paying for at the end of the day is the juice in the bottle. If you find a great $10 bottle of French wine, and they do exist, make it your house wine; don't question the price!
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:53 am to
Thanks for all the input gents. I would love to try a few Burnellos or a big Bordeaux but it would be a complete shot in the dark. I'm sure a $60 bottle will be good regardless.

All of those Napa cabs are on my to drink list. I've read that 2012 was the vintage of the decade or "perfect" in that region so I may invest in a dozen or so 40-$60 bottles to lay down.

I haven't hit 30 yet so I still have a lot of corks to pull but I'm looking forward to learning and trying more.

Thanks again guys. We need more wine threads on this board. Maybe a FWD? I'm sure it's been done.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 11:41 am to
quote:

In a lot of ways the fixed costs of wine making, bottling, distribution, etc... are relatively stable across the entire spectrum. For instance, a glass bottle for French wine costs the same roughly as a glass bottle for Italian wine. (Of course, there are different types of bottles with different costs, but in general...). Bottling, corks, cartons, shipping costs, etc...


A lot of the cost of producing the wine is determined by whether or not it is done by hand or by machine. That makes a huge difference. You can bet a $10 bottle of wine had most of the steps done by machine whereas a comparable wine that costs $40 may have been done by a family and all done by hand, everything from bottling to designing the label to putting the label on to corking, etc etc etc. The wine itself can be great or horrible no matter the process, but just something to think about when looking at price. It doesn't always mean you get a better wine.
This post was edited on 7/15/16 at 11:42 am
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
About the 12's:
There is no doubt that the 12's are legit. It was an absolutely perfect growing season. IMO 8-10 years may be too long for some of those wines from Napa.

Thus far, I think the 2011 vintage has aged masterfully, considering it was perceived to be a "bad vintage". 2011's from Napa have a very meaty, peppery flavor. Its pretty unique, and I really have come to enjoy the 11's.

As far as individual wines to age, if you lay something down from a high quality winemaker in a high end wine region, its going to be a good decision.

IMO I wouldn't buy anything to lay down if I had not at least tried a tasting from that winery. But that's just me, I probably wont ever have a Latour or a margaux.
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