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Charcuterie and Curing meats
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:05 am
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:05 am
Been perusing a charcuterie book i have, and wanted to get started on it. Problem, however, is setting up a "curing chamber" for dry aging meats. From what i read, you need a certain amount of humidity (65% i believe?) and a temp of 60-70 in order to cure properly and not develop bad mold.
Anyone dry cure their own meat?
Anyone dry cure their own meat?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:17 am to BugAC
I've tried it a few times by just hanging it either in a basement (during winter) or an extra fridge.
Long and short of it is: its a lot of work for no reward different than buying some really good stuff from a cheesemonger.
Long and short of it is: its a lot of work for no reward different than buying some really good stuff from a cheesemonger.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:31 am to BlackenedOut
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I've tried it a few times by just hanging it either in a basement (during winter) or an extra fridge.
Long and short of it is: its a lot of work for no reward different than buying some really good stuff from a cheesemonger.
Well we don't have basements in S. Louisiana. And i'm willing to work for it. I'm a fan of all things cured, salted, and fermented.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:33 am to BugAC
I do but that is a whole nother story.
Do you have an extra fridge? Or an old dorm fridge? That will work and you can put a glass of water in the bottom of the fridge to keep it somewhat humid.
Do you have an extra fridge? Or an old dorm fridge? That will work and you can put a glass of water in the bottom of the fridge to keep it somewhat humid.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:35 am to BlackenedOut
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That will work and you can put a glass of water in the bottom of the fridge to keep it somewhat humid.
problem here is too much humidity
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:39 am to BugAC
Make a small room 4'x4' or so, insulate it well, and put a window unit and a dehumidifier in it?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:41 am to CHEDBALLZ
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Make a small room 4'x4' or so, insulate it well, and put a window unit and a dehumidifier in it?
That's a little much for what i was planning. I think the dorm fridge with some humidity control and a temp controller would be the best bet.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:50 am to BugAC
For maintaining humidity maybe boveda bead packs in an old fridge. I have no experience with curing meats but they work well enough to regulate humidity for cigars and easy enough to come by.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:06 am to DixonCider
My wife has some of those dehumidifying pouches hanging in our closet. They work pretty good.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:26 am to BugAC
Yes, old dorm fridge. For probably $100 max you can buy a humidity controller and an external thermometer which should be easy to install and your off. Can be a fun hobby.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:29 am to BugAC
Also, my buddy who cures meats has this book which I borrowed to read. Its a really fun, comprehensive guide on the science and process of curing along with step by step instructions for a variety of cured meats.
Dry-Curing Pork: Make Your Own Salami, Pancetta, Coppa, Prosciutto, and More
Dry-Curing Pork: Make Your Own Salami, Pancetta, Coppa, Prosciutto, and More
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:37 am to NOLALGD
I've been reading this one
Has a bunch of recipes for all sorts of stuff. Bacon, pancetta, prosciutto, jerky, terrines, sausage, etc...
Has a bunch of recipes for all sorts of stuff. Bacon, pancetta, prosciutto, jerky, terrines, sausage, etc...
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:46 am to BugAC
That is a good book. Start with the duck prosciutto to get a good handle on the process. But I wouldnt fret too much with humidity this time of year and if you have a fridge. Remember charcuterie or some form of it kept humanity alive before refrigeration.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:59 am to BlackenedOut
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That is a good book. Start with the duck prosciutto to get a good handle on the process. But I wouldnt fret too much with humidity this time of year and if you have a fridge. Remember charcuterie or some form of it kept humanity alive before refrigeration.
I know. I think i want to start with bacon, as it only requires a fridge, and maybe some pancetta. I want to work my way up to a good pork rillette or duck terrine.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:17 am to BugAC
Rillettes and terrines wont need humidity, fyi and the rillette especially are easy to pull off.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:31 am to BlackenedOut
Yeah the humidity control is more for pancetta, hams, etc
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:35 am to BugAC
Point being, start with the suff that doesnt need additional capital first
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:19 pm to BugAC
There are a lot of options in that book that don't require the humidity control. The duck prosciutto is fantastic in my opinion. I've also made their duck confit recipe, the rillettes, a couple of the sausages and pate, and I've stolen some other ideas from some of the other recipes.
I just bought some pink salt to use in making some duck pastrami (no recipe for that in the book) and I'm planning to start brining them tonight.
Also there is a butcher that just opened on perkins that I am planning to get some fatback from for the Lardo recipe in that book.
Personally I think there are a ton of options that go waaay beyond the prosciutto/pancetta italian charcuterie standards and I think they are worth your time.
If you get the humidity controller done I'd love to see it though... duck season is fast approaching and I've been wanting to hang my ducks to age for a few days before cleaning them, I've just been too nervous to do it without a temp controlled environment considering the temps in SELA.
I just bought some pink salt to use in making some duck pastrami (no recipe for that in the book) and I'm planning to start brining them tonight.
Also there is a butcher that just opened on perkins that I am planning to get some fatback from for the Lardo recipe in that book.
Personally I think there are a ton of options that go waaay beyond the prosciutto/pancetta italian charcuterie standards and I think they are worth your time.
If you get the humidity controller done I'd love to see it though... duck season is fast approaching and I've been wanting to hang my ducks to age for a few days before cleaning them, I've just been too nervous to do it without a temp controlled environment considering the temps in SELA.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:23 pm to BugAC
You can buy a cigar humidifier/dehumidifier thing. Little electric widgets that take the guesswork out of cigars.
Google cigar oasis, it might be the control you are looking for.
Google cigar oasis, it might be the control you are looking for.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:42 pm to BugAC
A cook at Cochon once recommended a small wine fridge as a great way to control temp and humidity. I may look for a used one.
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