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Charcuterie and Curing meats

Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:05 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:05 am
Been perusing a charcuterie book i have, and wanted to get started on it. Problem, however, is setting up a "curing chamber" for dry aging meats. From what i read, you need a certain amount of humidity (65% i believe?) and a temp of 60-70 in order to cure properly and not develop bad mold.

Anyone dry cure their own meat?
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5803 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:17 am to
I've tried it a few times by just hanging it either in a basement (during winter) or an extra fridge.

Long and short of it is: its a lot of work for no reward different than buying some really good stuff from a cheesemonger.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:31 am to
quote:

I've tried it a few times by just hanging it either in a basement (during winter) or an extra fridge.

Long and short of it is: its a lot of work for no reward different than buying some really good stuff from a cheesemonger.




Well we don't have basements in S. Louisiana. And i'm willing to work for it. I'm a fan of all things cured, salted, and fermented.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:33 am to
I do but that is a whole nother story.

Do you have an extra fridge? Or an old dorm fridge? That will work and you can put a glass of water in the bottom of the fridge to keep it somewhat humid.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:35 am to
quote:

That will work and you can put a glass of water in the bottom of the fridge to keep it somewhat humid.



problem here is too much humidity
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:39 am to
Make a small room 4'x4' or so, insulate it well, and put a window unit and a dehumidifier in it?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Make a small room 4'x4' or so, insulate it well, and put a window unit and a dehumidifier in it?




That's a little much for what i was planning. I think the dorm fridge with some humidity control and a temp controller would be the best bet.
Posted by DixonCider
H-Town
Member since Nov 2015
398 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:50 am to
For maintaining humidity maybe boveda bead packs in an old fridge. I have no experience with curing meats but they work well enough to regulate humidity for cigars and easy enough to come by.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21917 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:06 am to
My wife has some of those dehumidifying pouches hanging in our closet. They work pretty good.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2231 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:26 am to
Yes, old dorm fridge. For probably $100 max you can buy a humidity controller and an external thermometer which should be easy to install and your off. Can be a fun hobby.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2231 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:29 am to
Also, my buddy who cures meats has this book which I borrowed to read. Its a really fun, comprehensive guide on the science and process of curing along with step by step instructions for a variety of cured meats.

Dry-Curing Pork: Make Your Own Salami, Pancetta, Coppa, Prosciutto, and More
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:37 am to
I've been reading this one



Has a bunch of recipes for all sorts of stuff. Bacon, pancetta, prosciutto, jerky, terrines, sausage, etc...
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5803 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:46 am to
That is a good book. Start with the duck prosciutto to get a good handle on the process. But I wouldnt fret too much with humidity this time of year and if you have a fridge. Remember charcuterie or some form of it kept humanity alive before refrigeration.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:59 am to
quote:

That is a good book. Start with the duck prosciutto to get a good handle on the process. But I wouldnt fret too much with humidity this time of year and if you have a fridge. Remember charcuterie or some form of it kept humanity alive before refrigeration.




I know. I think i want to start with bacon, as it only requires a fridge, and maybe some pancetta. I want to work my way up to a good pork rillette or duck terrine.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5803 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:17 am to
Rillettes and terrines wont need humidity, fyi and the rillette especially are easy to pull off.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:31 am to
Yeah the humidity control is more for pancetta, hams, etc
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5803 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:35 am to
Point being, start with the suff that doesnt need additional capital first
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:19 pm to
There are a lot of options in that book that don't require the humidity control. The duck prosciutto is fantastic in my opinion. I've also made their duck confit recipe, the rillettes, a couple of the sausages and pate, and I've stolen some other ideas from some of the other recipes.

I just bought some pink salt to use in making some duck pastrami (no recipe for that in the book) and I'm planning to start brining them tonight.

Also there is a butcher that just opened on perkins that I am planning to get some fatback from for the Lardo recipe in that book.

Personally I think there are a ton of options that go waaay beyond the prosciutto/pancetta italian charcuterie standards and I think they are worth your time.



If you get the humidity controller done I'd love to see it though... duck season is fast approaching and I've been wanting to hang my ducks to age for a few days before cleaning them, I've just been too nervous to do it without a temp controlled environment considering the temps in SELA.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:23 pm to
You can buy a cigar humidifier/dehumidifier thing. Little electric widgets that take the guesswork out of cigars.

Google cigar oasis, it might be the control you are looking for.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Day Wisher
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2010
400 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:42 pm to
A cook at Cochon once recommended a small wine fridge as a great way to control temp and humidity. I may look for a used one.

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