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re: Andrew Godley interview in Country Road Magazine

Posted on 3/5/19 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 3:19 pm to
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Not sure that is true.
it is.
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Several don't distribute
then they are considered a bar or restaurant with a microbrewer permit where it can only be sold at retail for consumption on or off premises.

the Manufacturers permit is the permit you get to be able to distribute to bars/restaurants/stores. And to apply you have to have either a lease or own you location AND a contract with a distributor.

read up if you would like.
Louisiana ATC
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52752 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 3:57 pm to
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It wasnt even a NEIPA in the first 4 releases.


IIRC, Batch 4 was the first really juicy batch that we all called "Sunny D".
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73689 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:08 pm to
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then they are considered a bar or restaurant with a microbrewer permit where it can only be sold at retail for consumption on or off premises.


So basically you are splitting hairs.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57502 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:14 pm to
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So basically you are splitting hairs.

this "brewpub" is limited to, i believe, 12500 bbls a year which can only be sold on premises. These restrictions essentially make the brewpub a restaurant. you can not get the product anywhere else, and you are only making money when your doors are open.

Thats a big difference when you are look at the business model, ownership and operation.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 4:16 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:20 pm to
Oh no, I completely agree with what you are saying.

Just saying that you can brew and sell beer without a distributor or having a contract beforehand. So you can be a brewery, just a microbrewery.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57502 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:29 pm to
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Just saying that you can brew and sell beer without a distributor or having a contract beforehand. So you can be a brewery, just a microbrewery.


i guess. But that had no bearing to the post i was commenting on saying Andrew did all of that with no distributor. Which isnt true.

If self distribution under a certain volume were to be implemented, you will see a huge uptick in LA breweries.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 4:32 pm
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90867 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:34 pm to
Scott would love to roll a keg into the back of a pickup truck and roll it into a bar and hook it up. Stupid La regulations.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73689 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:34 pm to
They call them collaborations.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24838 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 5:45 pm to
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ut that had no bearing to the post i was commenting on saying Andrew did all of that with no distributor. Which isnt true.


I don't believe Yeezy was referring to Parish not having a distributor. He was saying that Trillium didn't have a distributor, so that is why they were able to expand more rapidly than Parish. They had more working capital because they didn't have to share $$$ with a distributor. They also didn't have a distributor telling them that they needed to brew more Canebrake. Trillium brewed a shite ton of fancy beers and sold them direct at fancy prices.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24838 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 5:49 pm to
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Scott would love to roll a keg into the back of a pickup truck and roll it into a bar and hook it up. Stupid La regulations.


This is what makes Portland what it is. I've been in a taproom talking to the beer manager when he has gotten a call from a brewery and cut our conversation short so he could run out the door to go pick a keg up. It was some saison from The Commons...

I can tell you, Scott shouldn't have to deliver anything. There should be taprooms that he could keep on speed dial and they would come pick up whatever kegs he's willing to give him.

Some breweries make regular deliveries.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 5:51 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27190 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 5:54 pm to
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Commons


R to the I to the P. Gone but not forgotten.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90867 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 5:55 pm to
No I was just saying he can’t even do that regardless.

Posted by heypaul
The O-T Lounge
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 6:03 pm to
Edited.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 7:44 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24838 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 6:07 pm to
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R to the I to the P. Gone but not forgotten.


Rumor is that they will be back...
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:11 am to
Yeah, you misunderstood what I was saying. Jax got it. Premium product, premium price, no need to cut in a third party. That is what has allowed some of these breweries up here to grow so aggressively. Andrew hasn’t gotten the same returns, so it makes sense that he hasn’t been able to grow as quickly.

Also, batch 4 Ghost was called the GOAT for literally years. Your recollection is a little off.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136876 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:22 am to
I think it is safe to say that markets in Boston and Portland are a bit more refined than Broussard, LA.

a more aggressive strategy l, at that time, likely falls on its arse on South louisiana
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73689 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 9:54 am to
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Yeah, you misunderstood what I was saying. Jax got it


Pretty obvious what you said. Ramrod was on a tear dropped fiya beer knowledge though.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:15 am to
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a more aggressive strategy l, at that time, likely falls on its arse on South louisiana


You’re probably on to something here. Still, the laws in LA really need to change to be of more benefit to the industry. But the impediments to that are pretty obvious.

And this type of obstruction is not just happening in the South. A few months ago it was really hitting the fan in CT over a piece of proposed legislation. Hartford Courant on challenges to breweries and distribution
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 10:19 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24838 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:40 am to
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Courant on challenges to breweries and distribution


Politicians gonna politic...
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Cameron, who acknowledged that he would probably be forced to close down tasting rooms in Bloomfield and Hartford — and shed about 20 jobs — if he had to choose between on-site or off-site sales, said he was dismayed that McGee, a candidate for mayor of Hartford, would introduce such a bill without at least talking to him and other brewers about its effects.


Man, I had no idea how little it takes to buy a congressman...

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Records show McGee received $100 contributions during his 2018 re-election campaign from executives of Levine Distributing Company, an Anheuser-Busch wholesaler in Norwich; F&F Distributors in New London; Star Distributors in West Haven; Rogo Distributors in East Hartford; Northeast Beverage, which has locations in Orange and Rhode Island; and the Connecticut Beer Wholesalers Association. The chief operating officer of G&G Beverage Distributors in Wallingford gave McGee’s campaign $50.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:08 pm to
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Man, I had no idea how little it takes to buy a congressman...


I couldn’t figure out whether to laugh or be sad about that, ha
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