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Posted on 5/13/11 at 10:47 am to Coon
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A couple of barges of grain smashing into a saturated levee about 2-3 feet from the top can cause the Mississippi to start running through anywhere. If that happens in Vacherie, the Mississippi would run down through Thibodaux and then through Houma.
Disagree. If the levee busts on the west bank of the river parishes it woldnt make it to bayou Lafourche. If you look at the map there's a trough straight to the gulf following the swamp between vacherie and Thibodaux heading south through lake des allemands then salvador then through barataria.
You're probably right. But I posted that 8 days ago before anyone was talking about that possibility. There's really no telling exactly where all the water would go after a southside levee breach. Needless to say, everyone south of it would be affected in some manner. I hope we don't get to find out.
Posted on 5/13/11 at 12:18 pm to Bowe Knows
LINK This is just a link to channel 3 news here in Jackson,Ms., but it does have some very good videos and up to date information on the flood. Hope everyone stays safe 
Posted on 5/13/11 at 5:12 pm to SpecialLSUtiger07
Posted on 5/13/11 at 7:35 pm to loogaroo
Email from LSU:
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Dear Residents,
For those of you that are remaining on campus this summer I wanted to provide you with some information on the rising river levels. If you are on your way home, save travels and enjoy your summer.
Residential Life is in close contact with the LSU Emergency Operations Center (EOC) regarding the rising levels of the Mississippi River and the potential for flooding of portions of the LSU Campus. The EOC is working closely with local, state and national agencies, and has all the most current information available. Residential Life will keep our residents informed on the latest information regarding plans and the current status of the situation.
Please continue to closely monitor the LSU website, www.lsu.edu for the most up-to-date information, and click here to read the update on the Mississippi River, from the LSU EOC.
Many of you have been following the related news coverage, and the recent “worst case flooding scenario” reports in The Advocate, and on local and national news outlets. These are informative reports regarding whatcould happen if nothing was being done; however, University, local, state, and federal officials are doing everything they can to ensure that the impacts to our area are minimized. The aforementioned updatecovers these actions in detail.
Residential Life has posted some Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) on our website,www.lsu.edu/housing, that address the common concerns expressed by residents and will update as new questions arise.
In preparation, residents are encouraged to purchase dried and canned food, and bottled water, since potential flooding could cause the loss of electricity, gas, and clean water supplies. Residents are also encouraged to ensure all valuable papers, photographs, computers/electronics, and other irreplaceable items are moved to a dry and secure location.
If you are leaving LSU for a break after finals, please secure your apartment and property before you leave. Nicholson and Ed Gay residents please notify the Ed Gay office at lorp@lsu.edu and West Campus Apartment or Acadian residents notify your front desk, so we know you are safe in the unlikely event of an emergency.
Please continue to monitor your LSU PAWs email account and www.lsu.edu/ for the most current information and updates.
Steve Waller
Director
Posted on 5/13/11 at 9:12 pm to When in Rome
Corp. announced "Opening in the next 24 hours"... Go time!
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Posted on 5/13/11 at 9:15 pm to Funreaux
Noon tomorrow
Posted on 5/13/11 at 11:42 pm to Funreaux
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Corp. announced "Opening in the next 24 hours"... Go time!
shite just got real...
Posted on 5/14/11 at 12:47 am to Funreaux
Finally something official.
Posted on 5/14/11 at 9:09 am to tetu
Opening should be around 3pm today. The Corps will hold a news comfrence at 1pm. I was up at my daughters house yesterday real late. The corps has put sandbags on the levee at the base were La 1 Hmy goes up on the levee. T he water level is within 6' from the top of the levee there.
Posted on 5/14/11 at 4:18 pm to TaserTiger
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The Spillway has only been used once since its completion; in 1973, 25 of the 125 gates were opened (Costello 1999: 216).
"The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers opened one bay of the Morganza Spillway Saturday afternoon, which will funnel 10,000 cubic feet per second of water off the Mississippi River.
Col. Ed Fleming said one or two more bays will be opened Sunday." (from LINK )
1. Are 'gates' the same as 'bays?'
2. If they are, does it seem strange to anyone else that they opened... one?
Posted on 5/14/11 at 4:20 pm to rahrahoohlalala
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2. If they are, does it seem strange to anyone else that they opened... one?
No.. they want a gradual flow of water at first. So it doesn't scour out the land and animals will have a change to scurry out of the area once the water starts coming up.
Posted on 5/14/11 at 7:11 pm to The Boat
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animals will have a chance to scurry out of the area once the water starts coming up.
There's gonna be a whole lot of animals that are going to get mighty tired staying ahead of this by the looks of the flood map.
Posted on 5/14/11 at 7:13 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:Go West young man, ain't you been told...
There's gonna be a whole lot of animals that are going to get mighty tired staying ahead of this by the looks of the flood map.
Seriously, if they by chance go East or West instead of South.
Posted on 5/15/11 at 3:47 am to rahrahoohlalala
Hi rahrahoohlalala -
Yes - more or less. It's terminology. Technically (IMO - since I'm only a retired Eng. & not USACE) the "Bay" is any one of the 125 concrete openings (each about 30 feet wide x about 25 feet tall) enclosing (via slots in the concrete) the "Gates" (each about 30 feet wide x about 25 feet tall x about 1 inch thick removable steel sheets weighing about 10 tons). In my day, I've also heard them called "Locks" (like Morganza Locks). Again, IMO, I think a "Lock" (there are 125 of them) is the complete individual structure (Bay + Gate). Remove the Gate from the Lock and you have a Bay flowing water. Again, it's terminology and IMO.
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1. Are 'gates' the same as 'bays?
Yes - more or less. It's terminology. Technically (IMO - since I'm only a retired Eng. & not USACE) the "Bay" is any one of the 125 concrete openings (each about 30 feet wide x about 25 feet tall) enclosing (via slots in the concrete) the "Gates" (each about 30 feet wide x about 25 feet tall x about 1 inch thick removable steel sheets weighing about 10 tons). In my day, I've also heard them called "Locks" (like Morganza Locks). Again, IMO, I think a "Lock" (there are 125 of them) is the complete individual structure (Bay + Gate). Remove the Gate from the Lock and you have a Bay flowing water. Again, it's terminology and IMO.
Posted on 5/15/11 at 4:03 am to TaserTiger
As of 5:30pm yesterday. tThey had 2 gates open along with Hmy La 1 open again. The water on the west side of the forbay were the levee meets Hmy 1 was almost breached. The water was about 1' from going over it. They did put some of those haskin baskets. If the wind trun from the east like its blowing from the north, I think it will go over the levee on the west side.
Now as far as how fast the water is moving south down the spillway. My son along with many others were about 2 miles south of the gates and at 6 pm very little water had reach them. In fact the only water they saw was in cowhead bayou.
I did get a bunch of pictures, but left my crap at my daughters house. I will get it later today once they open a few more gates.
Oh, to bad it was cool yesterday or I would of made some big bucks selling bottle water for all the people that had walked about 2 miles with lawn chairs to watch the opening, but was turn around once they got to the levee by the Corps. Hell, they were still a good 1 1/2 miles from were the open gate was.
Now as far as how fast the water is moving south down the spillway. My son along with many others were about 2 miles south of the gates and at 6 pm very little water had reach them. In fact the only water they saw was in cowhead bayou.
I did get a bunch of pictures, but left my crap at my daughters house. I will get it later today once they open a few more gates.
Oh, to bad it was cool yesterday or I would of made some big bucks selling bottle water for all the people that had walked about 2 miles with lawn chairs to watch the opening, but was turn around once they got to the levee by the Corps.
Hell, they were still a good 1 1/2 miles from were the open gate was. This post was edited on 5/15/11 at 4:04 am
Posted on 5/15/11 at 2:45 pm to fishfighter
This may be a dumb question, but how high is the interstate crossing over the Atchafalaya Basin?
How close do they think the water will get up to the road?
How close do they think the water will get up to the road?
Posted on 5/15/11 at 3:30 pm to Prominentwon
I drove over the basin bridge this morning on my way back to Texas, and although the water is high, it has a long way before reaching the roadway. I wouldn't think there would be any worries
Posted on 5/16/11 at 5:25 am to LSUinmyDNA
Yesterday around 6pm, I was on the north side of the Morganza spillway. Had took a ride out to Old River to check a camp.
Anyway on the way back, La 1 was shut down. That was when they started openning 4 more locks. Now they have a very nice flow of water and fish jumping. One could really use a surfboard there. I had walked down to the waters edge to take some pictures. As I was doing this, the water level came rushing up as more gates were open. In a half hour, the water came up a good 2'.
Ya'll get a chance to see this, do it now. The flow rate is unreal. There is a wave action once the water clears the locks that is a good 10'-12' tall. Its ripping now!
Anyway on the way back, La 1 was shut down. That was when they started openning 4 more locks. Now they have a very nice flow of water and fish jumping. One could really use a surfboard there.
I had walked down to the waters edge to take some pictures. As I was doing this, the water level came rushing up as more gates were open. In a half hour, the water came up a good 2'. Ya'll get a chance to see this, do it now. The flow rate is unreal. There is a wave action once the water clears the locks that is a good 10'-12' tall. Its ripping now!
Posted on 5/16/11 at 12:43 pm to fishfighter
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This may be a dumb question, but how high is the interstate crossing over the Atchafalaya Basin?
How close do they think the water will get up to the road?
I would say normally 25-30' above the water in the basin on a normal day. From what I have heard it will definitly come within single digits of the bottom of the bridge and possibly as close as a few feet but we will see. I would not feel comfortable driving over it considering what is being pushed in that direction.
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