- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Trying to decide on my two keepers need help
Posted on 5/26/15 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 5/26/15 at 11:15 pm
This will be the 6th year of the league and have been very fortunate with keepers. Need to decide between:
Jamaal Charles
Calvin Johnson
Odell Beckham Jr.
Really have no idea what to do. My first thought would be to go with Jamaal Charles and OBJ but I don't know if I can give away Calvin Johnson after he carried my team year after year. TIA
Jamaal Charles
Calvin Johnson
Odell Beckham Jr.
Really have no idea what to do. My first thought would be to go with Jamaal Charles and OBJ but I don't know if I can give away Calvin Johnson after he carried my team year after year. TIA
6
Posted on 5/26/15 at 11:23 pm to purplengold1
Calvin Johnson is consensus ranked 9th and Jamaal Charles 20th
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:20 am to purplengold1
I would keep Calvin and Charles. I like OBJ a lot but chances of him repeating the same numbers from last year are slim. He's still a top 10 WR, but Calvin is top 5 when healthy and very consistent and the same with Charles.
A top 5 WR and a top 5 RB. Then you can add two good WRs or two good RBs based on your strategy.
A top 5 WR and a top 5 RB. Then you can add two good WRs or two good RBs based on your strategy.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:24 am to PokerChamp21
Consensus? Based on what rankings?
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:14 am to WicKed WayZ
quote:This is probably the safe bet.
I would keep Calvin and Charles. I like OBJ a lot but chances of him repeating the same numbers from last year are slim.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:18 am to purplengold1
Trade OBJ to another LSU fan for a pick swap... someone will bite.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:35 pm to WicKed WayZ
quote:
I would keep Calvin and Charles. I like OBJ a lot but chances of him repeating the same numbers from last year are slim. He's still a top 10 WR, but Calvin is top 5 when healthy and very consistent and the same with Charles.
I'd go with this.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 4:56 pm to gatordmb89
Posted on 5/27/15 at 5:20 pm to purplengold1
Can you make trades?
Charles for draft picks?
Charles for draft picks?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 3:12 am to Dan Bilzerian
quote:
Charles for draft picks?
Why would he do that? What backs will be better? Lacy? Maybe..but I doubt it. He's got injury concerns the same as Charles and Charles is in a run first system
The only back I would take over Charles would be Bell, but he's suspended 3 games. Might as well stick with Charles unless Bell's suspension is reduced to 1 game then he's def worth it. Other than that, stick with Charles IMO
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:09 am to Dan Bilzerian
quote:
Can you make trades?
Charles for draft picks?
If you can make trades for draft picks, the best one to do that with would be OBJ. Calvin and Charles are proven commodities, and while OBJ is a stud, he hasn't proven he can consistently be an elite guy yet. Not to mention the return of Cruz raises a question mark.
With OBJ being such a hot commodity this offseason, and a former LSU player, you can probably get someone to give up more than they otherwise should for OBJ
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:25 am to purplengold1
where were they drafted??
Posted on 5/28/15 at 1:26 pm to WicKed WayZ
quote:
Why would he do that? What backs will be better? Lacy? Maybe..but I doubt it. He's got injury concerns the same as Charles and Charles is in a run first system
I dont get the Lacy hype at all?
-He is not a big factor in PPR (caught 3 passes or less in 13/16 games last year)
-Does not get the ball nearly as much as an elite back should (had 17 or less carries in 14/16 games last year, had 13 carries or less in 8/16, HALF of his games!)
-Does not do much with the ball when he does get it (10/16 games with less than 80 yards rushing, only 3 total 100 yd games)
Why not just wait 3 rounds and draft Mark Ingram who put up nearly identical numbers as Lacy did last year?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 1:42 pm to dnm3305
quote:
-Does not get the ball nearly as much as an elite back should (had 17 or less carries in 14/16 games last year, had 13 carries or less in 8/16, HALF of his games!)
this is just kind of how the NFL is these days. There aren't many guys that get the workload of 10 years ago.
Lacy had the 9th most carries in the NFL.
7th in Yards
t-3rd in TDs
His value comes in early in the draft because you know he is the man in Green Bay. Barring injury you know what you will get. Not to mention he plays in a good offense, and John Kuhn no longer really vultures TDs.
And as a PPR back, he is pretty respectable. He helps more than he hurts.
quote:
-He is not a big factor in PPR (caught 3 passes or less in 13/16 games last year)
of RBs with more than 200 carries, he had the 6th most catches.
Out of all RBs, he had the 6th most yards, and 3rd most receiving TDs.
He had as many catches as perceived "pass receiving RBs" like Giovanni Bernard, Jamaal Charles, Darren Sproles, Justin Forseett.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 1:53 pm to Lester Earl
I get all of that, I just dont think that equals no.1 overall fantasy back, or really even in the conversation. All the exact same things can be said about Forte, except he caught 60 more passes. Bell is clear cut no.1. Peterson will be absolutely be fed. Charles will get more touches as is the main man. I would even take Hill over Lacy. Foster still has some left in the tank, McCoy will be in a heavy run offense. There's just too many other backs to say that Lacy is clear cut no.1 or even top 3 really.
I just think alot of his value is coming from projection and that projection is him making a big jump.
I just think alot of his value is coming from projection and that projection is him making a big jump.
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 5/28/15 at 1:58 pm to dnm3305
yea i dont think he is #1, but i like him over Charles. I dont like how Andy Reid used him at all last year, and all the pressure is on him since the rest of the offense blows. .
Lacy finished ahead of him in PPR, by the way.
Forte & Demarco Murray will both be in new offenses. Bell has a 3gm suspension.
Lacy is one of the few without any questions surrounding him
Lacy finished ahead of him in PPR, by the way.
Forte & Demarco Murray will both be in new offenses. Bell has a 3gm suspension.
Lacy is one of the few without any questions surrounding him
Posted on 5/28/15 at 2:01 pm to dnm3305
Obviously you don't get it because no one said Lacy is a clear cut number 1 fantasy back. The closest was the poster referencing it could happen, but unlikely. The poster then mentions Charles and Bell are his 1 and 2. You're arguing a point no one made.
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 5/28/15 at 2:08 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Forte & Demarco Murray will both be in new offenses. Bell has a 3gm suspension.
Im staying away from his big time this year. Dont like the Mathews acquisition either with him. Both of their value (if Mathews had any) is now gone.
quote:
Lacy finished ahead of him in PPR, by the way.
To be fair, Charles missed some games and had a high ankle injury for a good part of the season. I do agree that I dont like the way he's used either. He could be a superstar like Westbrook was with Reid.
quote:
Bell has a 3gm suspension.
He's still no.1 for me. Just way too much upside and his floor is higher than most RB's ceiling. If you can go 1-2 or even 2-1 for those first 3 games, it's smooth sailing.
quote:
Lacy is one of the few without any questions surrounding him
Could we say that Lacy has more upside than someone like Ingram? Same high powered pass first offense, mediocre defensive division, will get cheap goalline TD's, mediocre O-lines. IF Ingram gets about 15 carries (what Lacy got last year), they can be the exact same player, just like they were last year, minus some PPR value. You can get Ingram 3 rounds later.
Even in crunch time games last year, playoffs-
Lacy's line -
vs Dal - 19 for 101 and 0 TD's. 1 rec for 10 yds
vs Sea - 21 for 73 and 0 TD's. 0 rec
There were 7 games last year that Lacy rushed for less than 60 yards with 0 TD's. SEVEN. He just doesnt show up enough and isnt consistent enough to be in the elite tier to me.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 2:10 pm to papz
quote:
Obviously you don't get it because no one said Lacy is a clear cut number 1 fantasy back. The closest was the poster referencing it could happen, but unlikely. The poster then mentions Charles and Bell are his 1 and 2. You're arguing a point no one made.
Im just speaking in general because Im already hearing some chirping that Lacy can be no.1 overall, especially from some of the guys in my leagues.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 2:16 pm to dnm3305
Ingram is a wild card this year, if he can stay healthy and the Saints are really committed to the run, he could vault into the top 5 by seasons end.
I think just based on volume(carries), there are a lot of guys you can look back and say the same thing. RBs just dont get the ball as much as they used to.
I just looked it up, and counted 4 games like this.
3 of the games you included are below:
vs NOLA, he had >60yards rushing(59), but caught 8-123.
vs CHI had 48yards but had a TD
next matchup vs Chi, had 50 yards rushing, but 3-68-1TD receiving
quote:
There were 7 games last year that Lacy rushed for less than 60 yards with 0 TD's. SEVEN. He just doesnt show up enough and isnt consistent enough to be in the elite tier to me.
I think just based on volume(carries), there are a lot of guys you can look back and say the same thing. RBs just dont get the ball as much as they used to.
quote:
There were 7 games last year that Lacy rushed for less than 60 yards with 0 TD's. SEVEN
I just looked it up, and counted 4 games like this.
3 of the games you included are below:
vs NOLA, he had >60yards rushing(59), but caught 8-123.
vs CHI had 48yards but had a TD
next matchup vs Chi, had 50 yards rushing, but 3-68-1TD receiving
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 2:21 pm
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News