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Julio just traded for Stevie Johnson and DeAngelo Williams. League freaking out.

Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:50 pm
Posted by northern
Member since Jan 2014
1360 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:50 pm
Le'Veon Bell and Steve Smith owner in first place just over reacted and traded Julio Jones for Stevie Johnson and DeAngelo Williams to the number 2 team.

League is freaking out. As Commish I have a policy to not veto anything unless there is clear collusion. Here's how the teams stack up BEFORE the trade.

12 Team 0.5 PPR.

QB: P. Rivers, R. Fitzpatrick
RB: M. Ingram, L. Miller, C. Johnson, L. Bell (IR)
WR: J. Jones, B. Marshall, S. Diggs, D. Inman, S. Smith (IR)
TE: D. Walker, ASJ

QB: B. Bortles, R. Tannehill
RB: A. Peterson, D. Woodhead, L. Murray, C. Ivory, D. Williams
WR: T.Y. Hilton, S. Johnson, D. Amendola, B. Cooks
TE: A. Gates, J. Reed
Posted by AmOutlawBR
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
1153 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:51 pm to
It's fair I guess, but team 2 is now stacked.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:52 pm to
Team records?

Doesn't look like collusion to me. Williams will be a top 5-7 back for the rest of the season.

Dumb trade but not collusion.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158762 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:52 pm to
meh....I don't see the need to freak out over it
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278455 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:53 pm to
a trade between the 1st and 2nd place team should never be vetoed at this juncture of the season
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51235 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:53 pm to
Tell the league to chill the frick out.
Posted by LateArrivalforLSU
Ascension Parish
Member since Sep 2012
3512 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:57 pm to
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a trade between the 1st and 2nd place team should never be vetoed at this juncture of the season
Posted by northern
Member since Jan 2014
1360 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Team records?


Both 7-1 with Team A with the tiebreaker.

quote:

Doesn't look like collusion to me.


I agree. Team A had a need for both a RB and WR with Bell and Smith going down and still has Marshall and Diggs to fill out.

quote:

Williams will be a top 5-7 back for the rest of the season.


MAYBE. Yes he had 2 nice games to start the season but he won’t touch Bell’s production. But he thinks Johnson is going to be a top 10 WR moving forward.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38410 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:02 pm to
Tell your league to stop being pussies.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:06 pm to
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MAYBE. Yes he had 2 nice games to start the season but he won’t touch Bell’s production.


Look at the top 7 RBs in your league and tell me who you believe has a better chance of outscoring him the rest of the way. I want to see 7 names, mate.
Posted by ATLsuTiger
Johns Creek
Member since Aug 2009
5416 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:13 pm to
I would have countered with Cooks instead of Stevie but it's fair enough.
Posted by LSU4ever2002
Member since Sep 2009
642 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:16 pm to
I don't think its that bad.
Williams will be one of the top backs ROS and with Keenan Allen going down, Stevie Johnson will get plenty of targets as Rivers #1, in that pass happy offense.

At first glimpse it looks bad, but you have to consider injuries and opportunity for the players hes trading for in return for Julio.
Posted by northern
Member since Jan 2014
1360 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Look at the top 7 RBs in your league and tell me who you believe has a better chance of outscoring him the rest of the way. I want to see 7 names, mate.



It's 0.5 PPR. Here's 10. On the fence to include D. Martin and E. Lacy.

1 T. Gurley
2 D. Freeman
3 A. Peterson
4 M. Ingram
5 D. Woodhead
6 M. Lynch
7 L. Miller
8 L. Murray
9 J. Forsett
10 L. McCoy
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8645 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

As Commish I have a policy to not veto anything unless there is clear collusion.


This is not collusion, so let it be.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26584 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:30 pm to
Your league sounds like it's full of a bunch of bitches. If the team getting Williams/Johnson thinks it's a good deal for him (which I think it is - helps him where he needs it) then it's not up to the rest of the league to second guess him.
Posted by northern
Member since Jan 2014
1360 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

This is not collusion, so let it be.


I agree.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:33 pm to
I don't see any reason to be freaking out. Julio has pedigree name as top player, but Deangelo will be a fairly strong rb1 the rest of the season.
Posted by krehn11
IA
Member since Jul 2011
1486 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:44 pm to
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Ingram, Woodhead, Lynch, Miller, Murray, Forsett, McCoy


I would honestly rather have Williams than anyone outside your Top 3.

Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28411 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:58 pm to
The guy giving away Julio is an idiot
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:00 pm to
Fair trade, no veto. Not anywhere close to my standard for collusion. Deangelo was very good during Leveons suspension and is his clear replacement, plus the guy needed a new WR to replace smith. I dont think its that bad of a deal for him, and the other guy didnt need the depth. Your league is full of scared bitches
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