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Is this trade collusion? Opinions welcomed.

Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:08 am
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:08 am
This is a .5 PPR keeper league. I'll put their draft value for next year in parentheses...

Team A receives: Martin (5th), Ginn
Team B receives: Leveon (1st), Yeldon (4th), CJ2K
Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4695 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:13 am to
1. Your opinion of draft value is subjective.
2. I don't have a problem with this trade.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16393 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:16 am to
Would also need complete roster and standings to have an honest opinion.
Posted by LateArrivalforLSU
Ascension Parish
Member since Sep 2012
3512 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:20 am to
Leveon is out for the year.

So, Doug Martin and Ginn for Yeldon and Chris Johnson. Have no idea why that looks like collusion.
Posted by ExpoMarker123
Member since Sep 2015
23 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:35 am to
That is completely fair
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27068 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:41 am to
I assume he's listing what the cost of keeping them would be, not guessing their actual adp next season.

Anyway, that trade looks fine.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:01 am to
Team A is going all out to try to win this year. Team B is trying to build for a win next year. Without seeing their records, which is relevant, I would guess that team A is looking pretty strong, and team B has just decided to throw in the towel. Or team B is just forward thinking. Either way.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 9:02 am
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40278 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:13 am to
fair if not keeper. Keeper makes it questionable
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 9:16 am
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:15 am to
1) no, that is the round they would be kept in next year.

2) I don't see it as collusion either.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8428 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:15 am to
Don't think I'd call it collision, but the trade is not "completely fair", as some people ITT have stated. Team A is getting the business IMO.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:16 am to
Team A= 3-5
Team B= 5-3
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40278 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:20 am to
I don't like keeper. Team A can say screw it I am not playing in this league next year anyway.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:44 am to
Team A is pretty damn stupid then. That's pretty puzzling.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26574 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:15 am to
No
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11588 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:29 am to
Not Collusion. Team A is trying to win this year or at least keep his name in the discussion.

Team B is just a wheeling and dealing fool who made a great play for next year while also acquiring decent production for this year.

Team B knows what he is doing but the trade is not lopsided to the point where collusion should be a factor.



Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27068 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:37 am to
As an aside, it find it irksome that these "collusion" threads never mention a crucial bit of information: what are the teams in question saying?

The absolute most important consideration in determining whether a trade should stand is what the teams themselves say they are trying to accomplish with the trade. If both sides have a reasonable, rational explanation, the trade should be upheld, even if you think they are making a mistake.

So, why don't you go and ask them?
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19118 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:41 am to
The real question is what is the punishment for coming in last place? Giving up Bell for next year may be worth dunking his nuts in icy hot.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13575 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:59 am to
quote:

fair if not keeper. Keeper makes it questionable


Questionable? As in questionable that you think these two owners are cheating? You see, that's the problem with this. There arent enough logical people in this world to determine what is and isnt cheating. This obviously isnt cheating.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40278 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:51 am to
No, not cheating. Just throwing in the towel for next year and moving on. Questionable probably isn't right word. Agree it isn't collusion. And support for why I don't play keeper.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38409 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 12:05 pm to
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