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re: Takeaways from the first preseason game

Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:58 am to
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:58 am to
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Mavs beat the Bulls by 50 last night


They regressed to the mean and shot 30% from 3 instead of a ridiculous 45.7% like they did with the Pels. 9 more made 3s vs. the Pels = 27 points. The question to ask isn't whether the Bulls are as good as they looked at times, it's obvious they won't be, but can the Pels regularly be as good as they looked in the first quarter? We'll find out more on Friday.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:47 am to
It's the preseason, so I don't take much stock in any of this. The main thing is we looked very good in the first half.
Problem is what happened in the 3rd quarter is what we've come to known from our Pelicans far too often.

It's basketball. Sometimes a team just shoots lights out from 3 and there's not much you can do except keep fighting to contest them. If a team keeps making contested 3's all night and beats you, I can accept that. If a team keeps making 3's all night and you continue to give them open 3's all night, that's not acceptable.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:33 am to
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Problem is what happened in the 3rd quarter is what we've come to known from our Pelicans far too often.




Jake Madison mentioned how hardly anyone outside of the bigs got to the line. Jrue was 2 of 2, and then we got 2 FTs out of the Crawford and Cooke in garbage time. Nobody else except AD/DC/Diallo got to the line.

The Pels have the recipe to get into the penalty early every quarter but nobody to take advantage of it. I still think the trade to make is Bledsoe, and if by Januaryish you think the odds are good of Asik getting medically retired you can trade multiple 1sts and not require they take Asik back.
Posted by twin span
NOLA
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:19 pm to
I'm afraid that is just Jrue. The last few years he shot about the fewest free throws in the league among point guards. He tries to avoid contact instead of taking it to the basket aggressively. I'm sure he's been told this is a problem year after year. Don't expect it to change.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:31 pm to
What do you do with Bledsoe, Rondo, and Jrue?
I'd love to get Bledsoe, but that means one of them has to ride the pine unless the other teams we play go really small, and legit small, not 6'8 guys playing the 3.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:55 pm to
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What do you do with Bledsoe, Rondo, and Jrue?


Hope that you win enough games so Rondo is happy as the backup.

I don't see too many established players worth going after besides Bledsoe. If you can't get him you might have to look at recent 1st round guys that have disappointed and hope lesser expectations and a smaller role allows them to flourish.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 3:11 pm to
What are you looking for with established players?
just a scorer in general?
someone who can get to the free throw line?
someone who can play the 3?

what kind of trade would work for Bledsoe salary wise? Moore/Ajinca?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 3:27 pm to
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What are you looking for with established players?


Someone making in the ballpark of $15 or less and would start over Rondo or Hill. If they make more than $15 you have to start adding depth guys like Crawford and Miller as filler. And while neither of them are great, the point of the trade is to make you better now to keep Boogie, so any move that goes beyond Moore + Ajinca and maybe Frank Jackson as outgoing salary doesn't fit the criteria.

If you can't find a starter that meets that criteria I'd start looking for cheap depth. A Denzel Valentine type. We know the team was interested in him, and while the Bulls probably hope he becomes a starter, all the Pels need him to be is a super sub that can play 1-3.


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Shams Charania @ShamsCharania 11 minutes ago

Charlotte's Nicolas Batum has suffered a torn ligament in his left elbow and will miss 8-to-12 weeks, league sources tell The Vertical.



I feel Charlotte is one of those teams that reality will force to change directions. I wonder if they would do Batum for Hill + 1st if the season is lost. Batum is expensive but getting off of Hill makes him a little more affordable.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 4:06 pm to
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I feel Charlotte is one of those teams that reality will force to change directions


maybe. even w/ Batum out, they're still a playoff contender. barring further injury problems, they aren't going to be worse than Bulls, Pacers, Hawks, Nets, or Knicks. still think they're better than Orlando, but maybe not.

still about being better than Detroit or baby Sixers
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 4:07 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:11 pm to
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Zach Lowe? @ZachLowe_NBA One reason Charlotte could hang in the playoff race w/o Batum for 8 weeks is that the Hornets are really, really elite at being in the East.


Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22776 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:07 pm to
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The Pels have the recipe to get into the penalty early every quarter but nobody to take advantage of it


I mean this acts like Davis and Cousins are Deandre Jordan from the FT line. They alone can burn opponents from the FT line as they are around 80% from the line.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:13 pm to
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this acts like Davis and Cousins are Deandre Jordan from the FT line.


I was complaining about everyone else. Even Hill would be better suited to take advantage of this than most of the active players we have.
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